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#106 of 165
Re: SOLUTION FOUND???? [drichard] by dezral
Jul 10, 2008 (11:47 pm)
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Replying to: drichard (Jul 07, 2008 12:14 pm)

I had my arbitration hearing on Wednesday, I think/hoped it went well. I asked for a repurchase. They told me that there was the new TSB that had come out in May, but I had already filed for arbitration by that time, so that is why I told them I didn't get it, that and the dealership called and told me about it a week before my hearing date. If they turn me down for repurchase then I will get the TSB done. I am glad that your car is better. I will keep you updated on what their decision is.
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Re: SOLUTION FOUND???? [dezral] by motorcity6
Jul 18, 2008 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: dezral (Jul 10, 2008 11:47 pm)

I hope your arbitration meeting went well for Toy does buy cars back, however one that has just a single problem as a tranny deal and it is widespread throughout a production model year the chance is slim of a repurchase..The Asians are rather brazen and arrogrant in fixing problems..
 
I went through a buyback on a GM car in 1999 with a 1998 Olds Intrigue that had accumulated 26k miles..It had steering and brake issues, all fixed as necessary by the dealer and always furnished a loaner car. No lawyer was involved and correspondance was limited, however car was repurchased and cost me $826 to drive those 26k miles..I was issued a check from GM for the original purchase price less the mileage charge of 826.. I endorsed the check and handled it back to the dealer plus an another check to purchase another new 1999 Olds Intrigue..It had similiar problems but with less frequency, however I put a quick 75k miles on it and traded it in on a new 2002 Olds Intrigue..After 120k miles on it, it was traded on a 2006 Pontiac GPGT..
 
I imagine that GM in the current economic climate would be a little hestiate to do the deal again..Maybe not..
 
I did a similiar deal on a boat back in the late 70's. Wheras the manufacturer removed the engines from the original hull and installed them in a new hull..The new boat was sold immediately..It was a three yr deal of problems, however in the end it was a excellent outcome..
 
Have owned 43 cars in my advanced age and never owned an Asian car, 41 Big3 cars and 2 Porsches..I was leaning toward a Camry SE-V6, but too many problems..Don't need the grief...
 
Good Luck!!!
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Re: SOLUTION FOUND???? [motorcity6] by dezral
Jul 18, 2008 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: motorcity6 (Jul 18, 2008 11:35 am)

Hey motorcity6: Of course Toyota won. I just got the decision back yesterday. I will be taking my car in to Toyota to have the most recent TSB done probably Monday and see if that works. If not, what do you think my chances are in getting a lemon law lawyer and fighting it? Or should I just deal with it like everybody else? Thank you for all of your input, it really helps a lot. ~~~Dezra
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Re: SOLUTION FOUND???? [dezral] by motorcity6
Jul 20, 2008 (9:21 am)
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Replying to: dezral (Jul 18, 2008 1:19 pm)

Take it to the dealer and let them work their wonders..If it doesn't work, ask for a new tranny..The last effort would be a lawyer..Keep us posted..
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Re: Toyota released a fix for Vibration/shift problem by silentcut
Jul 22, 2008 (12:16 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Apr 02, 2008 3:39 pm)

Hi there,
I guess i have some news...Good news for CAMRY 2008 owners regarding vibration problems. I am going to post everything that i know in this post alone.
 
I was given to know by Toyota service fella that a new service bulletin (Fix for Vibration/shift ) for 2008 camry was released and they have already fixed a couple of camries without any further complaints. If this is true it will be a good news for all of us 2008 camry owners who have this Vibration/shift problem at 40 to 50 mph speed. The engine slows down drastically without retaining the speed for atleast few seconds after releasing the gas pedal, forcing the driver to press the gas pedal in order to keep the momentum.
 
Today i went to Toyota dealer (gail toyota in CT and spoke to a MR jim) to check my cruise control which had a slight problem. It wasnt really a problem, but i was doing something wrong. ANYWAY my cruise control was just fine. I asked jim, if the toyota has released any fix for the vibration/shift problem. He said he himself has done the fix on one camry 2008 and the customer has not called him back even after a week with any complaints. Looks like the camry is working just fine after this fix.
 
I dont know if this is true or not. I love to believe this great news. I CANNOT JUST WAIT for my next oil change when i have set up an appointment to get that "FIX". He told me the firmware update was just released and they hook up the computer to one of camry's system and it takes about ONE HOUR to get this whole thing fixed.
 
I have my next oil change coming up at 5400 miles ( iam at 4400). I shall keep posting about my experience after the fix as well.
 
Meanwhile if anyone else has heard similar news regaring this fix, please post here. I hope i am not the only one to report this.
 
I just cannot believe this is happening...but i will still keep my fingers crossed unless until i get my car fixed during my next oil change.
 
However we have to remain compromised when it comes to seeing the image of the dashboard on the windshield and rear mirror, which is very annoying.Iam sure there is no fix for that.....
 
God bless all 2008 camry owners.
 
Thanks for reading. Please confirm this news if anyone else heard the same thing.
 
Thanks again
 
I
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Re: SOLUTION FOUND???? [dezral] by mcase2
Jul 30, 2008 (5:27 pm)
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Replying to: dezral (Jul 18, 2008 1:19 pm)

Here is the lemon law for Oklahoma! This is a paste from the state's lemon law website
 
What exactly is a lemon law? In the dictionary a lemon law is explained as a law obligating manufactures to repair, replace, or refund the price of motor vehicles that prove to be defective. The lemon law is designed to protect consumers that purchase new vehicles. All fifty states in the United States have lemon laws, but each state has different principles and procedures. But how do you know what defects qualify your vehicle, and how do you prove it? Basically, if your car has been repaired for the same defect four or more times and the problem is still occurring, you have a lemon. Of course, the defect must be something significant which substantially hinders the vehicle’s use, value or safety.
 
Oklahoma Lemon Laws cover "Any motor driven vehicle required to be registered, excluding vehicles above 10,000 pounds GVW and the living facilities of motor homes."
 
Manufacturers are entitled to 4 repair attempts or 45 days out of service before it qualifies under Oklahoma Law as a Lemon.
 
Cars are covered under the Oklahoma Lemon Law for Warranty period or 1 year.
 
P.S.
I hope this helps. Your Camry's problems certainly hinder use and value. Quite arguably if the acceleration is unresponsive its also a safety issue.
 
I also hope that you did not submit to to "legally binding" arbitration. I would recommend that you never ever do that. Toyota uses arbitration to dodge lemon laws whenever they can. If you can invoke statute law and get rid of a bad car, why on Earth would you risk being bound by the compromises and ridiculous settlements that can occur in arbitration? Invoke your rights and get rid get rid of this Camry lemon before its too late.
 
     
 
#112 of 165
Re: Toyota released a fix for Vibration/shift problem [silentcut] by wwest
Jul 31, 2008 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: silentcut (Jul 22, 2008 12:16 pm)

"The engine slows down drastically without retaining the speed for at least a few seconds after releasing the gas pedal, forcing the driver to press the gas pedal in order to keep the momentum."
 
Sounds to me as if you are a "VICTIM" of Toyota's latest effort to FIX the 1-2 second transaxle downshift delay/hesitation.
 
Under the new FIX you are supposed to learn how to manage the release of the gas pedal in order to avoid an upshift followed quickly by a downshift. The NCF, New Car Feature, indicates that if you lift the gas pedal slowly the engine/transaxle ECU will "assume" that your intent is to enter "cruise" mode and thereby it will upshift. On the other hand a "quick" release/lift of the gas pedal would more likely mean you wish to slow the car using engine compression braking and the engine/transaxle ECU will tend to keep the transaxle in the current lower gear ratio.
 
It sounds as if you may be confusing the engine/transaxle ECU by lifting the gas pedal a bit too quickly when you actual intent is to enter cruise mode.
 
I would assume that what you need to do is give the ECU time to "learn", for you specifically, ALONE, the difference between a quick lift of the gas pedal and a slow one. That would probably mean restricting the car to only you driving. Or in the alternative you can "learn" how better to modulate the gas pedal in order to more accurately "tell" the ECU your future, IMMEDIATE future intent.
 
But be careful of what you ask, that new TSB may mean going back to the old way, incurring the 1-2 second downshift delay/hesitation in certain specific situations.
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Re: SOLUTION FOUND???? [mcase2] by dezral
Jul 31, 2008 (5:45 pm)
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Replying to: mcase2 (Jul 30, 2008 5:27 pm)

mcase2: Thank you so much for your words of wisdom...where were you at before my arbitration date?!?! I could have used you to help me more. I did read the OK lemon law, and did notice that it said 4 repairs, and I only had 3. So, from there I knew I was doomed. I took the chance anyways and lost. I do agree with you that it is a safety issue, Toyota argued with me and said it wasn't. I am a woman so don't know much about cars except that a vibration like that isn't "NORMAL" like they said it was, I mean they said "NORMAL CHARACTERISTIC" whatever, they just don't want to admit they made a mistake. Since I did not win my case, I took it to the dealer (since that was my only option) and had the new TSB done that they offered me 1 week before my arbitration date and that came out right after I had already filed arbitration. So far so good, no vibration yet that I have noticed anyway. I haven't had many chances to try to make it do it. They said in my "decision letter" that I could either accept the arbitrators decision or reject it. I rejected it just in case it acts up again after this new TSB, I will still have until November to persue further action, if needed. How do I know if I submitted to a legally binding arbitration?? One more trip to the dealership for a repair on this car for a vibration and it will be a "lemon". I have already had to take it in for a defective CD player and my passenger side seatbelt thingy on the door sounds like it has a spring loose...at least nothing else big. Thanks again! ~~Dezra
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Re: Toyota released a fix for Vibration/shift problem [wwest] by silentcut
Aug 01, 2008 (8:40 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Jul 31, 2008 7:51 am)

Hi wwest,
Thank you for your reply. I did try to release the gas pedal slowly and saw lil bit of improvement, but not quite a lot though. And you know if you are conscious of the gas pedal all the time, then thats not called driving. It should be done involuntarily in my opinion, without worrying about it.Anyway its for sure is a problem from Toyota and this learning process is just to comfort ourselves i guess.
 
Anyway i will ask the dealer if the TSB has had any success in the last 3 weeks. Based on which i will proceed with the fix. I shall keep you posted.
 
Thank you again.
#115 of 165
Re: SOLUTION FOUND???? [dezral] by mcase2
Aug 02, 2008 (3:02 am)
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Replying to: dezral (Jul 31, 2008 5:45 pm)

Without reading any documents you may have signed I cannot say if the arbitration was binding. From here it sounds like you were involved in an "in house" Toyota arbitration process that did not involve the courts. If you did not specifically sign away your option to go to court this process probably is not legally binding. At this point having a lawyer you know and trust read what you agreed to and review any documents you signed in this process might not be a bad idea. You need to know where you stand and this would be the first step.

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