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#15 of 18 Re: Rear fog light in a USA Outlander [batman47] by batman47 Aug 24, 2009 (8:41 am)
Replying to: batman47 (Aug 22, 2009 10:06 am) Reading other Mitsubishi forums I came across an experiment that was done by some people who wanted to have front fog lights + Xenon in an Outlander XLS. It is well known that in the XLS model the option front fog lights (12V-55W) are replaced in factory for a DRL (12v-27W). This problem was solved by ordering a front fog light relay (Part#MR588567) and a new stalk switch (Part# 8614A064).   The experimenters took their vehicle to a Mitsubishi dealer to reprogram the ETACS-ECU when the new stalk switch (with the front fog light icon on it) replaced the stalk switch that came with the XLS model. The attractiveness of the experiment was that the functionality of the DRL with the new switch was never eliminated (or removed) by reprogramming the ECU and the functionality of the front fog light was under the control of the driver. The experimenter managed to have Xenon lights on with the front fog light on if required. All of this was done without touching the harness setting.   There are three important points here. (1)- The DRL harness was still energizing the DRL bulbs in spite of the new ECU re-programming. This meant that the ECU has just added this new functionality to itself, (2)– The DRL ceases to operate (without driver intervention) when Xenon light (Low beam) are activated and (3)- When the stalk switch is instructed to activate the front fog light the DRL harness is used to illuminate the DRL bulbs now behaving as fog lights.   A continuation of the previous statements for the rear fog light may be that by ordering a rear fog light relay (Part# to be found) and a new European stalk switch (Part# 8614A061), the vehicle could be taken to a Mitsubishi dealer to reprogram the ETACS-ECU when the new stalk switch (with the rear fog light icon on it) replaces the stalk switch that come with the XLS model. Based on the previous experiment the functionality of the side-marker light with the new switch is not eliminated (or removed) by reprogramming the ETACS-ECU and the functionality of the rear fog light will be under the control of the driver through the stalk switch. The harness for the rear fog light will be the same as the side-marker harnesses. Could it be so simple? I think not. Because the front and rear side-markers light illuminate simultaneously with the parking, tail, license plate, and instrument panel light. All of these rear lights have connectors that connect to the respective ETACS-ECU connectors located in the rear bumper wiring harness. I assume that before the Outlander is shipped to Europe, UK, Australia, America, etc. the rear fog light connector is connected to the respective ETACS-ECU connector while in the American model the side-marker light connector is used to connect to the ETACS-ECU. So how can we have rear fog light and rear side-marker light in the American model? Replies to this message: batman47 (Aug 24, 2009 8:42 am) ark_royal (Aug 26, 2009 8:25 pm) batman47 (Sep 01, 2009 2:19 am)
#16 of 18 Re: Rear fog light in a USA Outlander [batman47] by batman47 Aug 24, 2009 (8:42 am)
Replying to: batman47 (Aug 24, 2009 8:41 am) CONTINUE   (1)- Because the rear side-marker lamp comes with the lenses, socket, bulb and a small length wire connector (American model) a similar arrangement needs to be ordered from Europe for a rear fog light, i.e. just socket, bulb, and the hanging little wire connector. The side-marker lamp has a cavity in the center of the lamp that is sealed and a hole needs to be made to house the rear fog light socket that was explained somewhere else in this forum.   (2)- The European rear fog light connector must connect exactly in the same place where the side-marker connector was connected to the ETACS-ECU connector in the original model.   (3)- The results of the previous steps is that the rear side-marker connector is now orphan and therefore cannot be energized or illuminated as it should be.   (4)- The ETACS-ECU can be now reprogrammed making the rear fog light operative when the knob stalk switch is positioned accordingly. However, the rear side-marker light will not illuminate.   (5)- The only way to have rear fog light + rear side-marker is to identify the liftgate wire harness going up to the liftgate from the rear left side of the vehicle. This harness energizes the license plate lamp as well as the tail gate combination lamp that houses the brake light, turn signal and parking.   (6)- On the rear left floor of the vehicle the rear end liftgate wiring harness runs up to the liftgate that carries the wires that energize the license plate lamp. Using relatively cheap electrical instrument by puncturing the rubber cover of this harness the live wires carrying the current to the license plate lamp can be identified. When this is done a connector (female or male) can be attached that will fix to the orphan side-marker light connector from step (3). The end product (theoretically) will be side-marker light on (usually all the time) and a rear fog light manipulated at will by the driver when weather conditions so demand.   (7)- With the approach described above there is no need to implement an extra switch button near the instrument cluster or a switch button relay, or run a wire under the floor carpet,. The Outlander will look neat with these facilities as if from the factory.
#17 of 18 Re: Rear fog light in a USA Outlander [batman47] by ark_royal Aug 26, 2009 (8:25 pm)
Replying to: batman47 (Aug 24, 2009 8:41 am) I checked the user manual which can be download for free for the Mitsubishi Outlander. It is an English version of the Russian Mitsubishi Outlander. It has the rear fog lights. But I have to note that when the car has the rear fog lights, the vehicle will not have any front or rear side markers. I dunno what it means to me and to you. But can you show me the pictures or videos of your study about having the rear fog lights without losing anything so that we can follow and make our cars cool too? Also, if you can, may you provide the websites where we can get the harnesses and the switch for the rear fog lights? Replies to this message: batman47 (Sep 01, 2009 2:19 am)
#18 of 18 Re: Rear fog light in a USA Outlander [ark_royal] by batman47 Sep 01, 2009 (2:19 am)
Replying to: ark_royal (Aug 26, 2009 8:25 pm) Please go in this forum to the section: "Rear fog light a triky subject" for more information.

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