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#6 of 12 Re: Mazda 5 Karakuri seats [hydrogen3]
by coolmazda5
Feb 10, 2008 (5:53 am)
LOL, really interesting perspective I would say. I never thought about it on that way
a) I have 2 Mazda5s, and I appreciate the 06 vs. 08 facelift, except the taillights, those continue to be weird...
b) The things that did not make it (i.e. Karakuri Seats) again, may be NHTSA but may also be cost related. Yes, Europe has them but do you know how much the same car is there? The one I saw, maybe a Sport (plus) or Touring in the US, 27,500 Euros!! I let you figure the exchange rate. I think Mazda smartly cut the nice to have features to remain competitive, they are a business after all, no charity. On the other side, they only put 2nd row seat A/C for US, Mexico and Canada, so who knows!
c) I'm not worried about resale, the cars really pay-off during my ownership, any extra money I get when I sell them, is a good plus but not critical
d) I have manual tranny on both my cars, there is more than enough power to haul you around. If you want to drag race Odysseys or any Soccer mom cars, I think yes, you need a bigger engine
. Still, 0-60MPH in around 8.5s, hmmm, what else my wife wants to smoke Hyundai Elantras at the traffic light?
#7 of 12 Re: Mazda 5 Karakuri seats [hydrogen3]
by maltb
Feb 11, 2008 (11:13 am)
FYI, factory tint is only allowed on vehicles classified as truck. While DC was able to do this with the Neon PT Cruiser, Mazda couldn't get it done on the Mazda5. Politics.
#8 of 12 Re: Mazda 5 Karakuri seats [maltb]
by coolmazda5
Feb 11, 2008 (4:51 pm)
No worries maltb, now that I see it looks like a troll, this is its first post, joined only 2 days ago and its the wrong forum area if you ask
#9 of 12 Re: Mazda 5 Karakuri seats [coolmazda5]
by hydrogen3
Feb 13, 2008 (2:18 pm)
The interior radio and HVAC layout is nice in the 06 model. Nav came from the top! New Nav is down low, and its not chrome like the old model. Usually I am enticed by newer models... in this case I'm not. I can put LEDs in the taillamp myself
Karakuri seats make the car what it is. If you change a 7 passenger car into 6, then do shouldn't the MPG change too? It is political, deffinitly, but how do you think Mr. Karakuri feels?
I joined up to respond to this thread. I use Edmonds.com research tools to spec cars. However once I find a car I like, I see the changes made for global markets. Maybe Mazda is happy with the 5's sales, maybe 7 seats would sell more! If anything you can save on advertising costs... "The seating in the Mazda5 is not like in Europe, or Asia. We've replaced Japanese innovation with some old Ford armrests; Buy one today!"
Tinting i don't quite get. Some sites advertise with the front windshield tinted!
I think I'll wait for the 1.6 CRDi i30
#10 of 12 Re: Mazda 5 Karakuri seats [hydrogen3]
by coolmazda5
Feb 13, 2008 (6:11 pm)
Oh, you are back
, I thought you were a troll given how the topics came and went. Good to know its a real you then. My bad
Isnt' the 1.6 CRDi i30 a Hyundai? If yes, stereotypes maybe, but that is a turn-off to me (and looks smaller anyway).
You either want to seat 7 very small passengers, you don't use toddler seats or you don't have a compact garage. Pictures tell it all, many of us DO NOT need a 7 seater, for that I would buy a Mini-van or similar
. Also, to be honest, I've seen so many complaints about the MPG on the Mazda5, but compared to other 6 seater, 7 seaters, it is really decent.
For the pics, just check the posts 226, 291, 296 and 307 in these links:
coolmazda5, "Rondo vs Outlander/Rav4/Santa Fe/Mazda5" #227, 30 Nov 2007 12:13 pm
coolmazda5, "Mazda 5 vs Kia Rondo" #291, 7 Feb 2008 4:43 pm
coolmazda5, "Mazda 5 vs Kia Rondo" #296, 8 Feb 2008 1:13 pm
coolmazda5, "Mazda 5 vs Kia Rondo" #307, 9 Feb 2008 11:42 am
I won't tell you what to buy of course, everybody buys as they please, but some extra info may help you understanding the Mazda5 target market better
#11 of 12 Re: Mazda 5 Karakuri seats [coolmazda5]
by hydrogen3
Feb 14, 2008 (12:10 am)
The two seats in the back are extra.. for now. I like the extra room in the Mazda5 compared to regular compacts such as the i30... or Mazda3 to stay in brand.
One of my concerns is the rear facing infant seat which is ideally placed in the center of the second row. Without the Karakuri hiding seat I see no support in the center aisle.
The latch buckles are always there on either side, so someone could straddle the middle without the speced seat. Might this be more dangerous, than the original design? Are there any rear facing tether attachments in the car?
I guess wanting DSC, Traction, 6-spd, and diesel, are the product of EU market envy
#12 of 12 Re: Mazda 5 Karakuri seats [mexmazda]
by ashokcg
Mar 17, 2008 (7:46 pm)
Anybody had any success with this Karakuri seat in US, would be interested.