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#111 of 130 Re: Porsche 944 (Mr_Shiftright)
Aug 23, 2008 (10:23 am)
Do you fall into the camp of those who feel that while the 924 (not such a great car), 944 and 968, and the 928 were good cars, but not true Porsches, or do you agree with Porsche's decision to focus on rear engine architecture for its sports cars?
Porsche seems to be cash rich now, but I'm wondering whether dropping the 900- series sports cars, rather than continuing front and rear engine architectures wasn't more of a financial resources decision than a marketing one.
#112 of 130 Re: Porsche 944 (Mr_Shiftright) [hpmctorque]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Aug 24, 2008 (9:23 pm)
I don't see why they can't pursue cars of many configurations, if they wish to. The only company I can think of that survived on "purists" was Morgan. Even Ferrari has tried just about one of everything except of course FWD.
Personally, my favorite Porsches are the 993 (last of the air cooled), the 928 GTS (awesome car, even today), and 356SC (best of the bathtubs) and the lowly 914 (great fun for cheap).
So that rear engine, front engine and mid-engine.
#113 of 130 Daytonas and Lasers
Jan 31, 2009 (7:07 am)
Dodge Daytonas and Chrysler Lasers are all but forgotten these days, and for good reason, many would say.
Why am I resurrecting the memory of this badge-engineered duo? Because I met one that fell at the extreme of the bell shaped curve, and that always fascinates me. To be specific, the car behind my '88 Nissan 300 ZX on a recent visit to the state emissions test station was a '85 Dodge Daytona (naturally aspirated with 5-speed). The owner of this Daytona and I struck up a conversation while we anxiously waited to see whether our old cars would pass. He told me that his wife had been badgering him for years to trade his Daytona for something newer. He's the original owner, incidentally. Anyhow, he was about to yield to his wife's wishes a few years ago, when he proposed to her that if his car failed to pass the emission test he'd get rid of it. Confident that the old clunker would soon fail the test, she agreed to her husband's proposal. Well, you guessed the ending; the Daytona passed the smog test, and the happy owner drove away smiling. I imagine his wife was much less happy when she heard the news, especially since this was about the third test the Daytona passed since she agreed to her husband's proposal.
The Z also passed, and its owner depressed the clutch, slipped it into first, and drove off happily too.
#114 of 130 From today's AutoWeek...
Mar 12, 2009 (7:44 pm)
" '80s dream-car bargains: The AutoWeek list:
1989 Corvette'84-'89 C4 Corvette
Our take: Arguably the best buy on this list
'85-'89 Volkswagen GTI
Our take: The iconic pocket rocket
'85-'89 Ford Mustang 5.0
Our take: Pony car + V8 = tons of fun
'87-'89 Pontiac Firebird Formula
Our take: One day, you might be able to show it at an Orphan Car Show
'84-'87 Buick Grand National
Our take: If you can find a clean one for less than $20,000, buy it
'81-'82 DeLorean DMC-12
Our take: Only on the market for a couple years; might always be a collectible
'81-'89 Lotus Esprit
Our take: One of the fastest cars in its day
'88-'89 BMW M3
Our take: A lot of thrills for the money
'83-'85 Ferrari 308 GTS
Our take: A Ferrari for less than 40 grand? Believe it
'81-'89 Porsche 911 Turbo
Our take: Be careful, these monsters are a handful!"
#115 of 130 Re: From today's AutoWeek... [hpmctorque]
Mar 12, 2009 (8:09 pm)
Good list. Some of those 'high' prices are wacky - $65k for a M3? Doubt it. And why not the gen 1 GTI? That's what I'd get (if a decent one could be found).
#116 of 130 Re: From today's AutoWeek... [hpmctorque]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Mar 13, 2009 (8:14 am)
Yes excellent list; however I'd just delete the Delorean as hopeless, as well as the Lotus Esprit. I mean, at least the other cars you could USE and hope to get somewhere.
It's also good to consider those cars for which there is a strong aftermarket. Not all on this list qualify in that regard but most do.
#117 of 130 Re: From today's AutoWeek... [Mr_Shiftright]
Mar 13, 2009 (10:54 am)
No sense buying a mid '80s C4 when you can get a '90s model for a couple bills more.
#118 of 130 Re: From today's AutoWeek... [lemmer]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Mar 13, 2009 (11:28 am)
Well C4s are REAL cheap right now....used Daewoo money.
But you'll have to put up with mechanical issues and parts falling off---it's part of the deal. I agree, I'd much rather have a C5, even with its big butt.
#119 of 130 Re: From today's AutoWeek... [Mr_Shiftright]
Mar 13, 2009 (4:38 pm)
Very true. My 85 had only 19K original miles (purchased in 2004) but all of the build quality you would expect from a mid-80s GM product. Lots of bang for the buck though.
#120 of 130 Re: From today's AutoWeek... [garv214]
Mar 13, 2009 (6:58 pm)
I am pretty sure quite a few interior bits on those were lifted from the Celebrity, just as many of the C5 interior bits looked like something from a rental grade Malibu.