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Honda Odyssey Alignment Problems

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Re: Alignment and pulling issues [dvhagan] by bigdadi118
Feb 19, 2009 (9:27 am)
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Replying to: dvhagan (Feb 18, 2009 8:57 pm)

Take note there may be 1 of 2 at back is defective and bearing the pulling problem but is not as obvious as the front ones. Next tire rotation, the backs are rotated to the front, keep an eye if pulling come back.
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Re: Alignment and pulling issues by odymare
Apr 03, 2009 (9:05 am)
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Replying to: bigdadi118 (Feb 19, 2009 9:27 am)

Hi Folks,
 
I have 02 aligment pulling issues since the day I got my ody.
 
Taken it back to dealer the first week I got it. I got a new set of rim and tires with month. Problem is the tires. The problem still persist today.
The aligment problem is like a second job to me.
I get in the van and work to keep it going straight and not slam into the wall or other cars. I am thinking could be a brake caliper problem. But the two rotors have the same temperture. Can figure out where the problem is.
 
I hope somebody start a class action law suit for this problem.
 
Odymare.
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Re: Alignment and pulling issues by donkin425
Apr 03, 2009 (5:19 pm)
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Okay so I'm a mechanic and i might have a reasoning for your pulling and you all thinking it is an alignment issue. Okay so i have a feeling that all of your guys problems are in the car itself. just how it is build and the design of the engine, transmission, and drive shafts (and yes the tires).
 
yes getting new tires will help your problem with pulling from what it sounds like to the left but it WILL NEVER BE FIXED! It is caused by what is called in the automotive world as torque steer. the drive shaft that goes to the front left and right tires is what is causing the problem. on the right side (dont quote me on the side) is shorter than the other. causing that side of the car to start moving forward faster and causing the pull. this is also common but not so much in BMW (you dont notice it because of how high of quality of the car)
 
i have done many alignments on the honda ody and they come back almost very time even if the specs are exactly how the honda factory wants them.
 
sorry but it is just something that will never be fixed and you will have to deal with it.
 
and a little side note if your tires have a run flat technology in the tire and you need a new tire most dealerships A) dont know how to change them or B) dont want to deal with it. they are a huge pain the the butt
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Re: Alignment and pulling issues [donkin425] by dgerstel
May 12, 2009 (2:54 pm)
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Replying to: donkin425 (Apr 03, 2009 5:19 pm)

donkin425, there is only one problem with your conclusion, I have never heard of torque steer happening while coasting or decelerating. I have had many front wheel drive cars, some with a lot of power, and know what torque steer is. I don't know how the problem is occurring for everyone else, but their descriptions don't sound like, just under power. Mine is definitely not torque steer and the real problem is that if is not constant. I was also once a mechanic and know that not being able to always reproduce the problem is a big issue.
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Re: Alignment and pulling issues [dgerstel] by yipman_style
Jun 23, 2009 (7:34 am)
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Replying to: dgerstel (May 12, 2009 2:54 pm)

09 model and 700 miles. Pull to the left at about 60mph. Exactly as many of you have said. Going to the dealer tommorow.
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Re: Alignment and pulling issues [yipman_style] by yipman_style
Jun 24, 2009 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: yipman_style (Jun 23, 2009 7:34 am)

Dealer said tire pressure was off. I check it my self prior and it was fine on all 4 two days ago to make sure it was not the tire pressure. They drove it 30 miles and said it was fine. I will see when I pick it up.
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07 memory steer/alignment problem by benjamn29
Jul 02, 2009 (8:00 pm)
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I bought a used 07 Odyssey in late February. Immediately noticed that car pulled severely right but ONLY after right hand turns. Once you turned left the car drove perfect. Took it in and the replaced the front left strut but that didn't help. They then put in a new rack and that helped a lot, but it still pulled, just not as severe. In recent weeks it has gotten worse again, not as bad as when I purchased initially but still pulling and it shouldn't. Just received it back today after they put all new bushings, bearings and rubber in the front right strut...nothing different. No better, no worse. Unbelievable!!! Extremely frustrated!!!
 
What in the heck is wrong with these things? It's not road crown...never had that problem in any vehicle I've had, including my '79 Volare. I can go down the same road if my last turn was left and the vehicle drives like it's on rails, BUT if my last turn onto the same road was a right turn I will be in the shoulder in less than three seconds...extremely annoying.
 
So, seems like from all the reading here we've done about everything...addressed struts and rack. Any other suggestions? Is it possible I have a bad tie rod end on one side that when it's torqued on right turns it is not holding true or something??? What about the ball joints???
 
Any suggestions are appreciated. Air pressures are alwasy good, we've rotated tires and all tires have consistent wear. Drives just perfect after a left hand turn, but not a right.
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Follow up post by cr40
Jul 03, 2009 (1:12 pm)
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I haven't posted in some time..see my previous posts #13,25,30,33 and 35. I got so disgusted and couldn't afford to take anymore time on this nightmare, so I simply gave up after returning to the dealership a few more times and them saying all was fine with the steering and the brakes. On my second to last visit, I think just to appease me, they said they tightened something in the steering rack, although they weren't supposed to. That was as of last year. I began experiencing more noises with turns and worsening brakes so I just returned to the dealer last Friday. They replaced the brake modulator which I think is a service bulletin. They also replaced one of the CV joints. This fixed the creaking and clicking with steering. The steering seems a bit more stable, too. The modulator fixed the problem of the brake pedal going down to the floor and vibration with braking. We'll see how it goes. I have approx. 20 months left on my lease.
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Re: Follow up post [cr40] by benjamn29
Jul 03, 2009 (4:53 pm)
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Replying to: cr40 (Jul 03, 2009 1:12 pm)

Yeah, they fixed my brake modulator too...at least that's one thing they could fix along with the weatherstrip on the inside of both the driver and passenger door.
 
Just put 250 miles on today, all highway. Everytime I turned right (as I was traveling south) it pulled, but when I turned left (to travel east) just fine. Same coming home but going north and west.
 
Only does it when the wheel is cranked more than 90 degrees. For example, if the vehicle is going straight (after my last turn was a left of course) and I have a normal highway speed corner to the right it's OK after I come out of the corner as I only turned the wheel probably 20-40 degrees. Same is true if it's pulling to the right (after my last turn was a right hand turn)...if I have a gradual left turn in the road it's not enough to offset the problem and let the van drive true...continues pulling right.
 
Funny how one try's things to compensate. As example, when I was traveling south on the interstate (that had a severe road crown), I drove in the fast lane (left) and even though my last turn was a right it seemed OK, but this is because the severe road crown was offsetting the pull to the right enough, BUT when I went into the slow lane (right), WATCH OUT! If I let go of the wheel, before a two count I was almost in the gravel.
 
My next van will be a Sienna. My mother has one with 30K and hasn't had any problems...I mean nothing; I've drove it several times and the steering is sooooooo much more comfortable. My luck though, I'll get one and it'll have a problem.
 
This is what happens though when one's on a budget and needed a newer vehicle. I didn't rush, but saw all the wonderful reviews of the Odyssey and for the features ours has compared to a comparable used Sienna it seemed the Odyssey was about $1,000-$1,500 less always...now I know why. Wish I would have seen this post prior to purchase.
 
I'll post what they say next as this will be my fifth trip in less than six months. I'm going to ask that all steering components be replaced, otherwise if they keep doing one at a time they risk me bringing it back each and every time.
 
I've had two loaners, one and '08 and the other an '07...neither did what this one does.
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Re: 07 memory steer/alignment problem [benjamn29] by walczak
Jul 07, 2009 (6:11 am)
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Replying to: benjamn29 (Jul 02, 2009 8:00 pm)

Had the same problem with my '07 odyssey. They tried everything. Could not fix it. Personally I think they knew it was a design flaw. They called it memory steer. Mine was to the left though. Once they realized they couldn't fix it, they said it as a design characteristic and the car was functioning normally. Finally filed claim with BBB and got my money back. It was a pain in the butt.

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