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#1 of 87 Aligment problem or alse? by zuraxus Dec 31, 2007 (2:48 am)
Since the first day that I picked up my new '07 Odyssey I felt that van is pulling to the left a little. I did address this issue to the dealer right a way and after little hesitation they put did the alignment. Results were Ok, they told me that everything was within manufacturer's specifications, butt hey made a little touch to make perfect. When I picked the van up from the dealer I ttok the car on highway and I felt the same "pull" again. I tried different roads, change the lines, considering road profiles, but even the road was profiled to the right, van is still pulling to the left at high speed (50-60 m/h and over). I already put about 8k miles on the van and mainly highway miles and I know that is not right. 2 weeks ego I made the appointment with local dealer to pay for the alignment from my packet, I just want to get over with, after service was done I noticed that there is $ 0.00 balance on my bill, I asked why??????? my answer was: " Sir, Your alignment is so perfect that we didn't even touched, everything is right on mark" An body know what could be the problem, what I should do in this case, van is still pulling to the side and is very frustrating on the highway, when I can't just have wheel freely in my hands only I have to apply constant force to counterbalance the pull. Thank you for advise. Replies to this message: dvhagan (Jan 15, 2008 11:07 am) gotribe (Jan 15, 2008 12:35 pm) dvhagan (Jan 15, 2008 1:07 pm) hondacare7 (Jan 30, 2008 9:33 am) and 1 more... copperhead653 (Feb 05, 2008 2:36 pm) crazylou (Apr 08, 2008 2:16 am)
#2 of 87 Re: Aligment problem or alse? [zuraxus] by dvhagan Jan 15, 2008 (11:07 am)
Replying to: zuraxus (Dec 31, 2007 2:48 am) My new 2008 Ody Touring pulled to the left and the steering wheel was also be too far counter-clockwise when the car was going straight ahead. The dealer corrected the steering wheel position and changed the toe back to original factory specks and it now does not pull left. Compared to my 2001 T & C, more effort is required to keep the vehicle going straight. Seems as if more force is required to activate the steering mechanism. The Honda service technician said that most '08s seemed to wander a slight bit in the center and just required more input from the driver. Other problems encountered was a rattle in the passenger sliding door (loose bolt corrected) and headlight aiming off. They will need to be set lower as just the slightest load in the rear drops the vehicle enough that you get constant reminders from oncoming vehicles. Any other '08 problems people have encountered? Thanks, dvhagan
#3 of 87 Re: Aligment problem or alse? [zuraxus] by gotribe Jan 15, 2008 (12:35 pm)
Replying to: zuraxus (Dec 31, 2007 2:48 am) Honda vehicles track very straight unless there is a problem. Service techs that say pulling right or left is "normal" on a reasonably flat road are just flat out wrong. The first thing to confirm is that the tire pressures are set correctly--I'm assuming someone's already done this. As far as alignment is concerned, I've owned 8 Hondas and have never had factory alignment be set wrong. Very unlikely. Most likely IMO is a tire with a slipped belt or some other defect. Try switching the tires front to rear to see if that corrects the problem. Replies to this message: dvhagan (Jan 15, 2008 1:07 pm) hondacare7 (Jan 30, 2008 9:33 am) tcunningham2 (Feb 21, 2008 11:46 am)
#4 of 87 Re: Aligment problem or alse? [gotribe] by dvhagan Jan 15, 2008 (1:07 pm)
Replying to: gotribe (Jan 15, 2008 12:35 pm) Tire pressure has been checked many times cold. The dealer did cross (X rotation) front to rear at the time they changed the toe. Again it does not pull left or right now that it was changed to the factory spec. The showed me the before and after readings and it was out. What they said appeared to be normal is a very slight "wandering" straight ahead with no road crown present. The front end mechanic said I was not the first to ask about the "wandering" and increased steering pressure feel. He said something has changed in '08. He had talked to some technical people at a higher level with Honda about the problem. Tire problems were also discussed and one of the alignment persons suggested checking again after the tires had worn after perhaps 8,000 miles. Thanks for your input. dvhagan Replies to this message: hondacare7 (Jan 30, 2008 9:33 am) tcunningham2 (Feb 21, 2008 11:46 am)
#5 of 87 Re: Aligment problem or alse? [dvhagan] by hondacare7 Jan 30, 2008 (9:33 am)
Replying to: dvhagan (Jan 15, 2008 1:07 pm) I just bought Odyssey EX. I have the exact similar problem. I have the same increased steering pressure. It has got around 300 miles. The dealer said they will check the steering and rotate the tires. I have the appt. next week. Will keep you posted. Replies to this message: tcunningham2 (Feb 21, 2008 11:46 am)
#6 of 87 bad tire by zuraxus Jan 31, 2008 (4:58 am)
thx. just to let u know, I had alignment checked twice, there was no improvement, finally I did tire rotation and that took care of the problem, that means is a bad tire that is cosing this problem, if u still have a chance try to claim the tire via your local dealer were u got your car from, if not let them bring this case to Michelin for you ( new car warranty cover everything except tires). good luck. Let me know... Replies to this message: dvhagan (Jan 31, 2008 1:21 pm)
#7 of 87 Re: bad tire [zuraxus] by dvhagan Jan 31, 2008 (1:21 pm)
Replying to: zuraxus (Jan 31, 2008 4:58 am) Thanks for the reply concerning your bad tire. My dealer did suggest putting around 8,000 miles on the tires and then re-evaluate. Honda evidently just requires more steering wheel pressure to initiate a turn- I have a Lexus RX350 loaner today while my older Lexus is being serviced. The RX350 has a nice "light" steering feel and shows no tendency to wander while going straight down the road. The only other thing that I have noticed is the awareness of when the engine goes from running on all six cylinders down to fewer in the ECO mode.
#8 of 87 Re: Aligment problem or alse? [zuraxus] by copperhead653 Feb 05, 2008 (2:36 pm)
Replying to: zuraxus (Dec 31, 2007 2:48 am) zurazus,   Your post states my experience so well I could of written it. I picked up my Odyssey in August and complained after 300 miles. Along with the van pulling to the left, when moving around 5 mph the steering wheel will twist back and forth in my hand if there is any bumps in the road. Sometimes it will dart left or right while moving at a moderate speeds. After a alignment and with no improvement I was told that the problem was "lot rot" and to put 4 to 5 k miles on it and see if the problem went away. Well after 7k miles I took it back and they rotated the tires and it helped quite a lot but still not close to the way the demos felt. Today I called the dealer and told them that they had convinced me that the problem was in the tires and that I expected them to replace them with four new tires. As of now I am waiting to hear back from the service manager to see what he can do about it. Will post the outcome later.
#9 of 87 alignment, tires and steering pressure by dvhagan Feb 05, 2008 (3:55 pm)
As to the tires- My service department in Des Moines told me that they put three different sets of tires on one Odyssey before it was correct. As for the increased steering pressure, one of the mechanics told me that there were problems a "few years back" and he had worked on over 40 vehicles making changes, I assumed in the steering gear components. Another said that the pressure component is now all electronic and he did not know of any way to change that. I still feel the odd steering when I am making minor changes on a curvy road. It is like the vehicle has a mind of it's own as to steering direction. As to the feel of the vehicle in the ECO mode when it drops cylinders- The Wall Street Journal had a review of an '08 Accord (compared to a Malibu), and he said the ECO mode feel bothered him because his being aware when it was "dropping" cylinders. After my alignment to correct toe at 800 miles, it will go straight on a perfectly level road with no apparent crown. When there is a crown, you have to keep at the wheel to correct the pull. Thanks for your input.
#10 of 87 Re: Aligment problem or alse? [hondacare7] by tcunningham2 Feb 21, 2008 (11:46 am)
Replying to: hondacare7 (Jan 30, 2008 9:33 am) Had problem with my 07 Odyssey pulling to the right. Dealer checked out, said it was in specs and still pulled to right. He then ordered concentric bolts and installed to bring camber adjustment to perfect, that did the trick, now drives straight. Honda says everything is OK if unless it completely changes lanes in 5 seconds when letting go of wheel.....wrong in my opinion.

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