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#1 of 5 What is a GGE and other novice questions?? by bward2 Dec 30, 2007 (8:03 pm)
I am a resident of Northern Virginia and very interested in a CNG vehicle (Civic GX) , however, I have many questions I have not been able to find the anwser to in this forum or others. The infrastrucutre for CNG is very limited in this area so most of my questions are related to my ability to perform as much maintenance myself.   1. I am trying to figure out how many Cubic Feet of gas make up a GGE. This will be the biggest factor in determining if a CGN vehicle is economically fesable for me.   2. I don't have any CNG stations near me, so I would need to get a Fuelmaker product installed at my house. It sounds like the FMQ-2 is a better choice then the Phill due to the ability to overhaul it at a reasonable cost in place. The Phill has a limited life and has to be sent to the factory to be re-built. Does the FMQ-2 have to be re-built by a certified CNG tech or is this something I could do.   3. Low and high pressure filters seem to be an issue on this forum. Is it possible for a person with reasonable mechanical skills to replace these filters on their own, or do they need to be replaced by a certified CGN mechanic (closest is next state over in Maryland) Replies to this message: lakewood90712 (Dec 30, 2007 9:14 pm) bward2 (Jan 01, 2008 11:14 am)
#2 of 5 Re: What is a GGE and other novice questions?? [bward2] by lakewood90712 Dec 30, 2007 (9:14 pm)
Replying to: bward2 (Dec 30, 2007 8:03 pm) A GGE is about 125,000 BTU or about 120 cu/ft at 1050 btu/cuft at 88-90% methane. Check with your gas supplier for the gas supplied ,as it can vary by region.   Fuelmaker will not sell directly to you , so you need a fuelmaker dealer to do the rebuild. This also applies to the 'Phill" unit , Fuelmaker will not ship one to you without a Fuelmaker dealer to install it.   The filters are easy to change, but costly. 98-00 only has an "A" filter, list price $32. 01-05 has the same "A" filter, but also has a "B" filter , list $130. 06-08 "B" filter is $360 ! , but honda is reducing it to well under $ 100 next mo.   Fuel injectors on pre 06 models are about $600 each. $150 each on 06-08.   If your goal is lower overall operating cost , it is unlikely to pencil out. Replies to this message: bward2 (Jan 01, 2008 11:14 am)
#3 of 5 Re: What is a GGE and other novice questions?? [lakewood90712] by bward2 Jan 01, 2008 (11:14 am)
Replying to: lakewood90712 (Dec 30, 2007 9:14 pm) Thanks for the good information.   That would put my fuel cost at about $1.65 per GGE.   I'm fine with the overall maintenance costs being the same or a little bit higher as a gas vehicle, but my main concern is having to drive 150 miles to have routine maintenance performed on the vehicle.   The Fuelmaker is the biggest hurdle. I may see if I can find a used one on e-bay to make up for the installation cost. Lot more homework to do but I appreciate the insight.
#4 of 5 Rear ended in Los Angeles. by dejapooh Jan 31, 2008 (12:30 am)
I was very nearly rear ended today. The car behind me got it good, I saw the car coming in so I rolled up about 3 or 4 feet to avoid getting hit. They missed me by about 6 inches. Anyhow, that brought to mind... what should I do if I am rear ended? Do I do a regular repair and then bring it to honda for an inspection? Do I just let honda do the repair, and to heck with the expense? What would you suggest? Replies to this message: pf_flyer (Jan 31, 2008 6:04 am)
#5 of 5 Re: Rear ended in Los Angeles. [dejapooh] by pf_flyer HOST Jan 31, 2008 (6:04 am)
Replying to: dejapooh (Jan 31, 2008 12:30 am) Well if your insurance company is anything like mine, they're going to have a list of approved body shops to work with. Not sure if the GX being a natural gas vehicle will make much of a difference in that.

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