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Re: My new ride [artmbgolf] by pao
Feb 16, 2009 (4:13 pm)
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Replying to: artmbgolf (Feb 16, 2009 4:09 pm)

AWD is a bit tougher on the MPG....I have a non-DI FE2 suspension 09 CTS RWD, I average 24 combined....and 28-30 MPG on the highway depending on the hills......overall very pleased with the CTS.....4 months old...and just rolled 10K
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Re: My new ride [artmbgolf] by 150mphclub
Feb 17, 2009 (8:40 am)
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Replying to: artmbgolf (Feb 16, 2009 4:09 pm)

I have a 2009 CTS w/ 1SA, automatic, PDW, PDR. I do not have AWD or sun roof. (PDW & PDR packages includes the FE2 suspension, 18" wheels, & limited slip differential.
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2009 CTS Steering Vibration by asrose
Feb 18, 2009 (7:57 pm)
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Anyone experiencing steering wheel vibration above 60 mph with the 2009 CTS? All attempts to fix the problem haven't worked.
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Re: 2009 CTS Steering Vibration [asrose] by ramjet22
Feb 19, 2009 (5:49 am)
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Replying to: asrose (Feb 18, 2009 7:57 pm)

have had vibration in my 2009 cts awd di engine between 45 to 60 mph since i picked it up jan 12 09 2 visits to service no help,balanced wheels & drive shaft etc service mgr called 2/16 said fix was availble from cadi engineering and had ordered the parts,should be in this friday, hears hoping, if not i will be starting lemon law action
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Re: 2009 CTS Steering Vibration [ramjet22] by asrose
Feb 19, 2009 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: ramjet22 (Feb 19, 2009 5:49 am)

That would be great if they have a solution. Did they indicate the source of the problem and what types of parts were ordered?
 
Please keep us posted!
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vibration over 40 mph by joey245
Feb 19, 2009 (7:52 am)
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i kept getting a vibrating feeling in my ears when i got over 40 mph. i have a 2009 cts,1000 miles on it.
i thought i was nuts and when i mentioned it to my service writer,his reply was we know all about it. they ordered a rear differential insulation kit and re aligned the differential and now all its ok.
i posted the following question earlier and have not had any response.
when my car sits in the hot sun and i start it up the climate control blower only comes up to a little more then half speed. i have had climate control in cars since 1988 including a 2005 cts and when the car was hot inside the fan speed would come up to maximum, until the car started to cool down.
the only way i can get the fan to come up on high speed is to lower the temp to 60 degrees or bring the speed up manually.
general motors tech has told my dealer that this is the way it works in the 2008 and 2009 cts.
i think they have a manufacturing defect. if any one else is experiencing this problem,please let me know. if it works properly,i would also appreciate hearing from you.
joey245
#118 of 231
by ctsguy2
Feb 19, 2009 (8:33 am)
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I've got about 3200 miles on my CTS AWD with 3.6DI. Have always noticed a slight vibration in the steering wheel at highway speeds, it but wasn't that severe and thought maybe I was being overly critical. Mine has had the two recalls performed for onstar and airbag, a faulty window regulator replaced and door lock mechanism ordered because it would only sporadically unlock. It seems like every day there are new creaks and rattles but some only intermittent. The newest thing is a drivers seat backrest that creaks loudly when I move around. I'm an average sized and weight guy. Don't know why it would do that, but passengers even comment on it. I looked up the lemon law but no one repair has had to be made more then once, and the vehicle has not been out of service for the required time either. Quickly becoming disheartened with the purchase decision.
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Re: 2009 CTS Steering Vibration [asrose] by pao
Feb 19, 2009 (9:09 am)
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Replying to: asrose (Feb 18, 2009 7:57 pm)

there have been two sources of vibration or harmonic vibration....one has been corrected with road force balancing of the wheels....this requires a hunter balancer I beleive and a tech that has a clue about how to use one......the second is that harmonic sound and in some cases vibration from the drive shaft.....the fix as noted has to due with some new insulators for where I beleve the drive shaft enters the diff.
 
all this seems to be car unique......I have an 09 RWD non-DI model fully loaded otherwise...and have neither problem... picked it up in Sept 08 and have over 10K on it now without any problems......
 
here is the TSB for the insulators:
 
This bulletin is being revised to update model years and add insulator washers (only for vehicles built without washers). Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 08-07-30-044 (Section 04 - Driveline/Axle).
  
Condition
  
Some customers may comment on a drone, boom, moan or vibration during light acceleration which phases in and out in intensity.
The condition may be most noticeable at about 80 km/h (50 mph), or 1000 - 1300 engine RPM, and occurs over a speed range of 5 to 8 km/h (3 to 5 mph).
  
Cause
  
This condition may be caused by the rear axle assembly responding to engine firing frequencies passed through the driveline when the torque converter clutch (TCC) is engaged.
  
Correction
  
For All Vehicles -- Calibration Update
This condition can be verified by driving the vehicle to duplicate the concern and using the Tech 2® to turn off the TCC. If the noise stops when the TCC is turned off, the calibration detailed below should help to eliminate the noise or vibration.
Important:
• This calibration may result in decreased fuel economy up to approximately one mpg/kpg. Because of this, the software should not be used in a vehicle without this concern.
• There are two calibration part numbers that are "selectable" for this controller. Read the description to determine the correct calibration for this condition.
• DO NOT replace rear drive axle or propshaft for this concern.
A revised calibration has been developed to correct this condition. Technicians are to reprogram the transmission control module (TCM) using SPS with the latest software available on TIS2WEB. Refer to the Service Programming System (SPS) procedures in SI. As always make sure your Tech 2® is updated with the latest software version.
For Vehicles Built Prior to VIN Breakpoint 90159377 - Install Insulator Washers After Reprogramming
1. Raise and suitably support the vehicle. Refer to Lifting and Jacking the Vehicle in SI.
2. Place a transmission jack stand under the rear differential assembly.
  
3. Remove the two front differential mounting bolts
  
4. Install the rubber insulators (2), GM P/N 20827776, between the rear drive axle and the body
5. Install the rear differential mounting bolt.
Tighten
Tighten the rear differential mounting bolt (1) to 220 N•m(162 lb ft).
6. Remove the transmission jack stand.
7. Remove the support and lower the vehicle.
  
Parts Information
  
Part Number Description Qty
20827776 INSULATOR ASM - DIFF CARR 2
  
Warranty Information
  
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:
Labor Operation Description Labor Time
K9532* Transmission Control Module Transmission Reprogramming with SPS 0.4 hr
Add Install Rubber Insulators in Rear Differential 0.3 hr
*This is a unique labor operation for bulletin use only. It will not be published in the Labor Time Guide.
GM bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, NOT a "do-it-yourselfer". They are written to inform these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions, and know-how to do a job properly and safely. If a condition is described, DO NOT assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that condition. See your GM dealer for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information.
WE SUPPORT VOLUNTARY TECHNICIAN CERTIFICATION
© 2009 General Motors Corporation. All rights reserved.
#120 of 231
Re: 2009 CTS Steering Vibration [asrose] by 150mphclub
Feb 19, 2009 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: asrose (Feb 19, 2009 7:51 am)

Go to message # 2717 under the topic "2008 Cadillac CTS". The service bulletin to solve the vibration problem is posted there. I suggest you copy it and take it with you to your dealer.
#121 of 231
Re: 2009 CTS Steering Vibration [asrose] by fisherman10
Feb 19, 2009 (3:34 pm)
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Replying to: asrose (Feb 18, 2009 7:57 pm)

Shimmy after 60 mph on my 2008 caused by tires according to my dealer.Two visits to dealer without sucess also excessive wind noise from the sunroof. I have owned several vehicles with sunroofs without this problem including a 2004 CTS.Any advice on these two problems would be greatly appreciated.

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