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Re: Styling, Styling, plus with Acura's Tech and "stuffs" [rv65]
by loverlbut
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May 06, 2008 (4:21 pm)
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Replying to: rv65 (May 06, 2008 3:37 pm)
Hi rv65,
Thanks for your info.. I cut/paste the followings directly from Edmund about Y2011 RL for your reference ...pretty new stat.
(BTW, if you're into "Power-Toy" and "Hot-Hatch", check out '08 Mazdaspped-3 (Car & Driver 10-best)....0-60 in 5.4sec., 263hp w/280-torgue - even bigger torgue than RL, TL, Infiniti-G, Lexus-IS, VW-GTI....etc.; I test-drove one, fantastic acceleration and built very very "tight", relatively quiet when crusing, best of all - under $25K with Bose)
------ Edmunds' latest stat about Y2011 RL --------
What Edmunds.com Says:Rear-wheel drive and a V8 engine should help, but the 2011 Acura RL really needs distinctive styling if it's going to compete against Germany's finest.
What We Know: Honda has been listening to the word on the street very carefully, because it has finally decided to give the 2011 Acura RL luxury sedan a V8 to help it compete with strong rivals in the U.S. One source tells us that Honda is currently working on a 420-horsepower 4.8-liter V8, and will employ the same cylinder deactivation technology we see on the current Japan-spec Inspire V6, thus generating class-leading fuel economy figures. But unlike the current RL, which sits on a front-wheel-drive platform and features Honda's SH-AWD four-wheel-drive system, the all-new RL will instead incorporate a rear-drive platform, one necessity that Honda planners have clearly identified in this segment, and a reconfigured SH-AWD system that engages the front wheels when rear traction is compromised. Slated for a mid-2010 debut, the new RL is expected to land in showrooms wearing a higher price tag than the current model.
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Re: Styling, Styling, plus with Acura's Tech and "stuffs" [loverlbut]
by rv65
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May 07, 2008 (4:13 pm)
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Replying to: loverlbut (May 06, 2008 4:21 pm)
Maybe the MY011 RL will likely be a 7 series competitor. The new TL will be larger than the current one and sized more like the current Accord. Or maybe the RL will be the RWD TL. The new TL has some nice goodies. The new TL will look nothing like the 09 RL and 09 TSX. 2 Engines including the RL's new v6. The base v6 will be likely be similar to the 05-08 RL v6. Pricing however might go up since Acura wants to be Tier 1 like Mercedes, Lexus, Infiniti and BMW.
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Re: Styling, Styling, plus with Acura's Tech and "stuffs" [rv65]
by rv65
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May 07, 2008 (4:33 pm)
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Replying to: rv65 (May 07, 2008 4:13 pm)
Next RL will get a v8 for the first time. The 09 TL will actually rival the 09 RL. The new TL will have features that will rival the 09 RL. The 09 RL will have to soldier on until 2010 when the MY11 RL will come out. The 09 TL looks like a current 2 Door civic mixed in with Camry. Does have a grill similar to the 09 RL and TSX but everything else is different. The 09 TL will not be accused of being bland. The 09 TL will be bigger than the 09 RL. An even bigger 2011 RL will re claim that title.
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Re: Styling, Styling, plus with Acura's Tech and "stuffs" [rv65]
by jensad
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May 08, 2008 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: rv65 (May 07, 2008 4:33 pm)
Just posing a question to the group.
How is Acura going to deal with the hybridization of the industry? Will they go to a hybrid Acura? Can one manufacture a V 8 and still make it "fit" within a hybrid?
I think Acura will have their share of hybrids, and it will include a V8 model. Guessing, maybe about 2012.
I am not in the industry, and own a 08 RL. But I think the hybrid issue will be addressed sooner than later.
Good luck to all and stay safe.
jensad
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Fuel Economy
by hpmctorque
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May 08, 2008 (12:49 pm)
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I recently read that Honda will use hybrids for their smaller cars, and rely more on diesels for their larger cars. So, you're more likely to see hybrid powertrains applied to Civic and smaller size Hondas, and 4 cylinder and V6 diesels for Accords, SUVs, minivans, and Acuras.
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Re: Styling, Styling, plus with Acura's Tech and "stuffs" [jensad]
by rv65
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May 08, 2008 (3:17 pm)
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Replying to: jensad (May 08, 2008 11:45 am)
No RL hybrid. I could see diesel as a future engine choice. I know it has its fair share of haters though. The new diesels are in a different league than 30 years ago. Honda thinks small cars should go hybrid. The 2011 RL will get the v8. I'm sure the IMA could be adapted to a v8. It depends on how they designed the engine bay. The previous accord had to have a v6 hybrid since the 4 cylinder hybrid was too wide. Now that the RL is going to a RWD based platform than you can have an IMA v8.
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2008 RL below invoice
by desert_rat
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May 11, 2008 (9:34 pm)
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the 2008 RL is now available well below invoice.
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Re: 2008 RL below invoice [desert_rat]
by rv65
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May 12, 2008 (4:04 pm)
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Replying to: desert_rat (May 11, 2008 9:34 pm)
I guess the 09 will be at that point when the 09 TL is coming out. 09 RL is just a bandaid until 2011.
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Re: FIGURE OF SPEECH [bartalk3]
by jjacura
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May 15, 2008 (3:30 pm)
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Replying to: bartalk3 (Feb 17, 2008 4:35 pm)
My favorite LIPSTICK shade would DAZZLE A PIG because the first time I saw it was 40 years ago on my all time favorite gal...Yep...the good woman I met AND married in 1968! Figure of speech or not it's still good to see you BARTALK, as well as NEBRASKA GUY and my good friend ACURAPHILE. I have stayed in touch with GEORGE (ACURAPHILE) ever since the 2005 forum was the hottest forum in Edmunds, say summer of 2004. I have come to the point where I don't get too excited about all the comparison talk anymore but it's great to read some personal stories about how the car we own and drive affects our lives. I read the RL and LPS forums for many months and was simply amazed by the knowledge, wisdom and wit of the many people that took the time to post their thoughts and opinions. What great fun it is...the synergy is there! This is a decision making time for me with the 2005 RL. I would be perfectly happy to keep it but come November the warranty ends and I am somewhat concerned about the electronics, computer functions, and even the sh-awd mechanics going forward and extended warranties are of no interest to me and so I will probably buy this fall. We'll see what kind of hand we are dealt as Acura gets serious about putting together a great new Car. It's good to be back!
JJAcura
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