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#13 of 138 Re: 2009 RL [rv65]
Feb 06, 2008 (3:21 pm)
""RL represents the very best we have to offer in terms of engineering, technology, performance, luxury and safety", said Dick Colliver, executive vice president, sales"
God, that's a shame...
The next few years will be hard ones for Acura in that case. Try as it might, it just can't seem to out-Audi Audi. With all the engineering prowess available at Honda, seems like it ought to be able to do that...
Feb 09, 2008 (10:59 am)
Nice to share the pages with you again. JJACURA and I are scoping out the update. I'll be back.
#16 of 138 Re: 2009 RL [acuraphile]
Feb 09, 2008 (1:30 pm)
Hi George - great to see you both posting again!!
Hope you are well.
#17 of 138 I saw the '09 yesterday at the Chicago show
Feb 12, 2008 (6:59 am)
Ohhh, boy, did they blow this one--looks even more like an Accord in person than it does in pictures. The grill is horrible, a tacked-on afterthought. If the RL came out before the Accord I'd probably like it fine (except the grill), but coming out after and being so, so similar makes no sense at all to me--people who buy a premium luxury sedan want it to look like one, not a family sedan you're going to see every ten feet.
It really seems like Acura doesn't know what to do with this model, even the current version (which I like enormously better lookswise than the '09)--it's too expensive (by far) for the entry level luxury category, it doesn't have the size or cachet for the premium luxury segment, and it still won't after this redesign. For a company as astute as Honda has proven to be over the years, they just haven't been paying attention here.
#19 of 138 LIPSTICK ON A PIG
Feb 13, 2008 (9:56 pm)
Saw the '09 RL at the Chicago auto show. Some definite improvements, but it's still just lipstick on a pig, as they say. The '09 is meant to be a holding action and a bridge to the '10, which will be completely redesigned. I don't expect sales to increase much based on this make up job, but they had to do something. The car, in whatever form, has not been a sales success, and a few touches here and there aren't going to change things. Even the salesmen at the show said the RL was not worth $15,000 or so over the TL.
#20 of 138 Re: LIPSTICK ON A PIG [bartalk3]
Feb 14, 2008 (12:49 pm)
but it's still just lipstick on a pig, as they say
I admit the RL is not everyone's cup of tea, but that's a bit harsh and undeserved!
#21 of 138 Re: LIPSTICK ON A PIG [nebraskaguy]
Feb 14, 2008 (5:13 pm)
I agree: 'lipstick on a pig' is disrespectful. However, bartalk3's mail appears to be on target. I find it incomprehensible that Acura took nine years to produce the '05 RL, a sweet car, but undistinguished and of 'vanilla' design, as borne out by the sales numbers. Now, along comes this touch-up with the unpleasant grille,and frankly, from the pictures, is not as aesthetic as my '05 RL. Is there someone seditious in the Acura design studio, preventing the company from competing with the big dogs? Where is the 'flagship' that is truly top of the line in every respect? Forget the carping by the mag writers about a V-8 - I'm speaking of a model that will address most of the criticisms that have plagued the RLs, from the '05 to the present.
I enjoy driving my '05, but it's not the car that I wanted to see when I visited the Acura showrioom in December 2004 - and subsequently ordered because I am an avowed 'Acuraphile.' Now, I find it hard to believe that Acura, having produced this touch-up, will really present us with a fully remodeled '10 - maybe '13 - maybe. I'll wait.
#22 of 138 Re: LIPSTICK ON A PIG [acuraphile]
Feb 15, 2008 (7:38 am)
I think the comment is a poor analogy because "lipstick on a pig" seems to indicate that they made minor cosmetic improvements to a hideous vehicle. I find the 05 RL to be an OK design, not ugly, but not Wow, either. The new refresh has received mostly negative responses (grill in particular) from a styling standpoint, but positives for content improvements. I would expect the timing of the complete redesign to largely determined by the response to this mid model change. Based upon earlier response we may see it sooner rather than later.
Just as a final observation, many cars styling changes look worse in pictures than in person. I think we may want to withhold final judgement until we can see it for ourselves. I agree that the front shocked me when I first saw pics, but I've looked at them numerous times since and the shock has worn off a bit. My harsh assessment has softened a bit. I don't think this redesign will pull up sales numbers, but I doubt that it will drive every potential buyer away as some have implied. Big discounts will continue with the RL imo.