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MT 2008 Truck of the Year....Thoughts?

10 messages,  Last post on Jan 07, 2008 at 8:25 AM

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#4 of 10 Re: MT 2008 Truck of the Year....Thoughts? [anythingbuttoy] by cruiser69

Dec 28, 2007 (12:35 pm)

Replying to: anythingbuttoy (Dec 27, 2007 6:51 pm)
Yeah, the tranny shudder was linked to the torque converter. They claimed to have resolved that issue. Tailgate is being "researched" as far as ive heard recently. I did see the video on the bed bounce...was pretty bad but GM needs to fix that too. Actually the GM rear end was all over the place on that course while the Tundra did say straight er, but the bed flexed far too much. GM's bed bounce was not as bad as the Tundras however. It seems like as usual, their is no perfect truck. Every automaker has a shortcoming in one area or the other. I guess they do tend to pick anything with a redesign.
 
However, lets keep in mind that standard configuration full size trucks, with the exception of the Titan, come in V6 form with weak payloads and towing capacities. As a matter of fact, Ford, Chevy, and Dodge's standard payloads are as weak as 1100 pounds! My 1995 Nissan hardbody pickup had more than that! I think when they did look at the RidgeLine they were looking at standard offerings like standard all wheel drive with lock up converter, 5,000 pound towing capacity, 5 passenger seating, abs, traction control, full airbag compliment, VDC, NVH, and fuel economy. The in bed trunk is pretty nice. It holds quite a bit of stuff. I dont care for the micro bed though. Plus it starts at a hefty 28,000 dollars so to be fair you can equip one of the aforementioned trucks to do a little more for the money in terms of payload and towing.
 
I do think though for the average "pretend truck" buyer, that being a half ton or below, i can see the value in the RidgeLine for the money. High resale and good fuel economy but its the love it or hate it styling. The Tundra will work out the kinks like any other redesigned vehicle. Hell, Fords cruise control fires, poor transmissions, four wheel drive systems and GM's poor transmissions and four wheel drive systems on their half ton trucks over the years sure didn't deter many loyalists. Several sources in magazines as well as the media have confirmed these problems in the vehicles. Ask any reputable transmission shop and they will be happy to show you the repair data on what vehicles have the most failures in this area. I think you will find the results very close to the reports out there. Yes their are exceptions of course like the Allison automatic but GM just sold off Allison transmission recently. They also just sold their entire medium duty truck line for quick cash, that being the GMC TopKick and Chevy Kodiak series.
 
I guess 40,000 combined units sold was not good enough. The Tundra will work out the problems, they still sold over 200,000 in the first half of 07 meeting their sales goals so time will tell i guess.

#5 of 10 Re: MT 2008 Truck of the Year....Thoughts? [bugchucker] by anythingbuttoy

Dec 28, 2007 (5:36 pm)

Replying to: bugchucker (Dec 28, 2007 11:08 am)
Bug,
  
You can read, can't you? Re-read the first paragraph of my last post.
 
Best 1/2 ton EVER?? LMAO!!! Anything close to being best wouldn't have major tranny, driveshaft and camshaft issues. Not to mention tailgates that buckle and split under normal use. Toyota then says you need to remove the tailgate when loading heavy cargo and not to put more than 100 lbs on it and NOT to drive with it open anytime. yet they sell bed extenders on their website...WTF??? I have also heard reports of the thin sheet metal in the beds and on the exterior denting when stepping on the wheel wells or leaning into the bed. Thin paint issues as well as cheap painted dash and other interior panels that the paint rubs off is also a common complaint. I really think Toyota put all of it's effort into the engine tranny and forgot about the rest of the truck. Yet the engine/tranny have proven to be unreliable so far too. So tell me, how is this the best 1/2 ton ever? Ohyeah, it does 0-60 in under 7 seconds, riiiiiggghhhtttt!!!!
 
PS Did I mention Bed Bounce and the Ultra-Flexy TripleFlex riveted c-channel frame yet? Yep, it's the BEST!!!!

#6 of 10 Re: MT 2008 Truck of the Year....Thoughts? [cruiser69] by anythingbuttoy

Dec 28, 2007 (5:39 pm)

Replying to: cruiser69 (Dec 28, 2007 12:35 pm)
The Tundra will work out the problems, they still sold over 200,000 in the first half of 07 meeting their sales goals so time will tell i guess.
 
Huh? 200K in 6 months? They did NOT reach their goal of 200K sold for the entire year. Better re-check those numbers.
 
I am willing to bet anyone they will not even exceed 175K in 2008. Anyone?

#7 of 10 Re: MT 2008 Truck of the Year....Thoughts? [anythingbuttoy] by cruiser69

Dec 31, 2007 (8:13 am)

Replying to: anythingbuttoy (Dec 28, 2007 5:39 pm)
Figures came from F---bes.com article. Dont know if they were accurate or not as i have no way of knowing. Perhaps he meant for the entire year. Journalists have been known to print misinformation...poor old Dan Rather comes to mind...as well as most Oprah shows from what i hear....LOL

#8 of 10 Re: MT 2008 Truck of the Year....Thoughts? [cruiser69] by cruiser69

Dec 31, 2007 (8:13 am)

Replying to: cruiser69 (Dec 31, 2007 8:13 am)
too many spaces....F--bes.com....long day already.

#9 of 10 Re: MT 2008 Truck of the Year....Thoughts? [cruiser69] by kcram HOST

Dec 31, 2007 (8:57 pm)

Replying to: cruiser69 (Dec 31, 2007 8:13 am)
I try to get the full-size sales numbers in every month at the Full-size pickup sales - F-150 best selling truck, but for how much longer?? discussion. End of year numbers will probably be in Jan 3.
 
kcram - Pickups Host

#10 of 10 Re: MT 2008 Truck of the Year....Thoughts? [kcram] by cruiser69

Jan 07, 2008 (8:25 am)

Replying to: kcram (Dec 31, 2007 8:57 pm)
Thanks kcram. Ill check it out.

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