Last post on Aug 18, 2008 at 7:25 PM
You are in the Subaru Legacy & Outback
What is this discussion about?
Subaru Legacy, Subaru Outback, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Sedan, Wagon
#40 of 49 Re: 2008 Outback 2.5i Manual [pathtomax]
Jul 17, 2008 (6:45 am)
Or for that matter still made a freakin' wagon. Just when people are dumping their SUVs for cars Subaru kills the Legacy Wagon... really dumb. After driving my in-laws Outback I don't see my self returning to Subaru unless they bring back a regular mid-sized wagon. I will be looking for a new car in 5 years or so...we will see.
#41 of 49 Seattle Subaru Service
Jul 24, 2008 (9:09 pm)
Any suggestions for a good place to get my 2003 Outback serviced in Seattle ?
#42 of 49 Re: 2008 Outback 2.5i Manual [shrinermonkey]
Jul 30, 2008 (1:44 pm)
(pssst - get a Forester)
#43 of 49 Re: 2008 Outback 2.5i Manual [ateixeira]
Jul 31, 2008 (7:35 am)
A Forester is most certainly NOT a wagon, especially the new one...ick. I don't want a tall SUV looking vehicle, I want a REAL wagon like my Legacy. Honestly, I don't see the point of the Forester when you can get an Outback for the same price and get more room and an overall better vehicle.
#44 of 49 Re: 2008 Outback 2.5i Manual [shrinermonkey]
Jul 31, 2008 (8:25 am)
LOL, tell me how you really feel...
The 2009 Forester actually has more leg room than the Legacy, IMHO. Try out the new one if you haven't already.
The cargo area is not as long, but it's taller and box-shaped, so in practice it's very useful.
You sit higher up to see better, and it costs a tad less. Resale is better - ask car_man for residuals and you'll see. I think it has a tad more ground clearance, too, and a tighter turning radius.
I do think the Outback has a nicer interior, though.
#45 of 49 Surprised at the MPG.
Aug 13, 2008 (1:14 pm)
Vehicle: 2009 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Limited (4S Automatic)
A half-tank in, I'm showing 23 MPG city/highway combined (about 6 miles highway and 4 miles city to work each way) with the Air Conditioner on constantly.
I did some quick math after the sale of my previous vehicle, a 2000 Honda Civic LX Automatic.
10 miles per gallon difference will end up being something like this for my Honda:
Subaru - 23 MPG Combined - 23 * 17 gallon tank = Range on Paper of 390 miles.
Honda - 30 MPG Combined - 30 * 11 gallon tank = Range on Paper of 330 miles.
In terms of a pricing standpoint, with gas at 3.50 a gallon here in NJ,
3.50 / 30mpg = 11.67 cents per mile
3.50 / 23mpg = 15.27 cents per mile
Assuming I drive 10,000 miles per year, I'll be paying $0.036 * 10,000 more in fuel a year.
That difference is $360. Is $360 worth surviving an accident? Better yet, is it worth having a vehicle that can help you AVOID the accident all together? My answer was yes.
I'm pleasantly surprised with the results so far. I'm taking a ride this weekend on a stretch of 50 miles of Highway, so I'll have to set the trip B MPG computer to figure that out. Unfortunately, I can't use Cruise Control yet until the break in's done - but that's ok, that's just another 800 miles away.
I guess with all the negative posts here I was expecting like 10 miles per gallon for the first couple thousand miles or so while the computer gets its act together.
#46 of 49 Re: Surprised at the MPG. [pilot1226]
Aug 14, 2008 (8:09 am)
Plus you don't have to rent a 4x4 to get to work when it snows.
#47 of 49 Re: Surprised at the MPG. [ateixeira]
Aug 15, 2008 (5:39 pm)
You'll probably jump a bit above 23mpg. I drive many of the same conditions as you are Pilot and with my LGT I get an average of 21mpg, and I push it HARD.
Once you hit about 8-10k miles you'll be at optimal MPG.
I'm currently in a rental 08 Forester AT Base and I'm getting about 24mpg and I'm romping on this thing like a red-headed step child
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#48 of 49 Re: Surprised at the MPG. [paisan]
Aug 16, 2008 (8:37 am)
Hmm. The Limited GT is Turbocharged, you're getting a higher MPG than Sub advertises. Maybe it's your synthetic that's reducing friction!
Taking it for a ride on highway up and down the GSP today and tomorrow for a few trips, I'll use Trip B to calculate highway MPG.
I've noticed that at startup the idle is high as per some posts on this forum (about 1.5k RPM) - but it seems to drop within about 30 seconds of startup down to under 1k RPM. Probably just a sensor or two that needs to get a little warmer. I'll keep my eye on it in the winter because people said they've actually stalled or borderline stalled.
#49 of 49 Re: Surprised at the MPG. [pilot1226]
Aug 18, 2008 (7:25 pm)
That's the PZEV you have bumping the idle for 30 seconds.
I don't think the highway MPG on the LGT 5MT is lower than 21mpg? Heck when I had stock sized snows on I was getting 23mpg and driving saner.
On the highway even with the slicker wider tires I'm getting about 24mpg at 80mph, at 65 I can get 27mpg on the highway, but I never drive that way.
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