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#738 of 3747 Update on the service bulletin
Apr 05, 2008 (5:38 pm)
from same web site as before posting the bulletin:
"APRIL 4, 2008
IMMEDIATE STOP SALE ORDER AMENDMENT 01 04:08 EST
ALL SUBARU DEALERS
We regret to inform you that we must place an immediate stop sale order on all of the 2008/2009 Subaru Impreza and Forester vehicles equipped with a 2.5L Turbo Engine produced with the beginning chassis number and later as shown below.
Model Starting Chassis Number Production Date
Impreza 507657 (SEDAN)/800140 (HATCH)2007/11/01
This is a correction of the earlier VIN set:
**INCORRECT**Forester 701045 2008/01/08**INCORRECT**
**INCORRECT**Impreza 523363 (SEDAN)/825183 (HATCH)2008/01/08**INCORRECT**
The reason for this immediate Quality Assurance action is that there have been several reports of “Engine Knocking Noise” from other markets on vehicles produced after the production dates listed.
Initial investigation confirms an internal piston ring wear issue on the failed units. This investigation shows failure in material quality or incorrect material altogether where in extreme cases the rings have fragmented.
In the interest of preventing any possibility of failures for our customers, we have chosen to isolate any potentially affected vehicles by ceasing sales of the potentially affected units until the root cause and correction can be identified. "
Another thread from there says:
"It looks like 5 months of 2.5L turbo engine production in Japan might have incorporated the defective rings. And Subaru is still trying to determine whether those defective rings went to SIA's engine assembly line. This will be expensive to cure."
#739 of 3747 Re: Wonderful...... [kurtamaxxxguy]
Apr 05, 2008 (9:43 pm)
Thanks for update, dstew1.
Once again I am kicking myself in the A__ for buying a first year car. I gambled Subaru could rise above that, but obviously not.
No more 1st years, ever.
Is this really a first year car issue? Hasnt the Turbo been used in a few model over the last few years?
Apr 05, 2008 (9:53 pm)
I have owned a 97 Civic VX & 04 Audi A4 (still have) with CVTs. Both had "manual shift" capabilities for 6 spds. I love the CVT! Can't beat the smoothness, midspeed acceleration (RPMs stay in peak power range as long as you like), & fuel economy is outstanding. I don't understand why some people find em so hard to get used to. For normal, no agressive driving the only noticable difference I detact is you never feel an actual shift.
My current 03 Forester XS has a manual, but when I am ready for a newer one in 3 years I will be getting an AT, I hope the Foresters have either the 5 spd or CVT when I am ready.
#741 of 3747 Subaru bucks - transferable?
Apr 05, 2008 (10:44 pm)
The new Forester has tempted me to start using my Subie Bucks card again so I could have an extra $1,500 cash 3 years from now. My only reservation is 3 years from now the Forester might not look like the best replacement for my 03 model.
Can the Subie Bucks coupons be transfered?
Is there a market for them at a discounted price to 3rd parties?
#742 of 3747 Transfer Bucks
Apr 06, 2008 (4:33 am)
That would be nice.Buy $ 10,000 subie bucks for 1/2 price 5K But it does have your name on them, and says not tranferable or resold..!!
#743 of 3747 Re: Wonderful...... [waiting4tiguan]
Apr 06, 2008 (5:25 am)
It is not good news about the 2009 Forester fault, is it?
Long term quality control was not professionally performed and this is a serious punch to the prestige of Subaru America. Overconfidence in the reliability of Subaru cars maintained by patriotic all the way is a sombre matter. Can the affected owners claim a Lemon demand to get their money back?
#744 of 3747 Re: Subaru bucks - transferable? [204meca]
Apr 06, 2008 (6:20 am)
Use the Subie bucks to pay for service on your vehicle, and put the money you would've spent on the service into a bank account. Then you've got downpayment cash to spend on whatever vehicle you go with down the road, and don't risk losing your earned Subie Bucks.
#745 of 3747 Re: Wonderful...... [batman47]
Apr 06, 2008 (6:49 am)
"Overconfidence in the reliability of Subaru cars maintained by patriotic all the way is a sombre matter. Can the affected owners claim a Lemon demand to get their money back?"
If someone is expecting 100% reliability from any auto manufacturer, they're definitely overconfident. Subaru has had a very good track record according to many sources, and IMHO has earned the confidence that, as a whole, Subarus are some of the most reliable vehicles made. A few makes are more reliable as a whole, and many more are less reliable. If you buy a Subaru, the odds are very good that it will be reliable, but there is always a chance it won't be. No manufacter is free from problems.
We don't even know the number of vehicles this affects, or the percentage of Subarus sold with this problem. Can't be more than 10%. Let's wait & see what Subaru does to fix things before declaring the affected turbos lemons.
#746 of 3747 Re: Wonderful...... [jeffmc]
Apr 06, 2008 (7:16 am)
Thank you. Your post was a reasonable, rational response to batman47's inflammatory prattle.
#747 of 3747 Re: More Gears do not necessarily mean better Milage [batman47]
Apr 06, 2008 (7:18 am)
I guess I'm off base here but my 1992 SVX with 230hp, AWD, and weighing about 3600+ lbs got 35mpg on the highway at 75-80mph. It had a 4 speed automatic transmission.