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Re: AT vs MT [samiam_68] by kurtamaxxxguy
Oct 24, 2009 (10:46 am)
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Replying to: samiam_68 (Oct 24, 2009 8:45 am)

Since 2009, the Forester XT is 4 spd AT only. It offers a sport shift mode improves responsiveness at expense of mileage.
 
It's a decent 4 spd auto and works well with its cruise control, but over 75 the engine's spinning close to 3000 rpm.
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Re: AT vs MT [kurtamaxxxguy] by oregonboy
Oct 24, 2009 (10:56 am)
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Oct 24, 2009 10:46 am)

With the torque available from the turbo engine, the top-gear ratio seems unnecessarily short, especially for an automatic, where a kick-down is just a toe nudge away. I would think that 2500 or even 2200 RPM would be plenty at 75 MPH.
 
I'm still bummed that the XT is no longer available in the USA with a stick.
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Re: AT vs MT [oregonboy] by samiam_68
Oct 24, 2009 (12:12 pm)
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Replying to: oregonboy (Oct 24, 2009 10:56 am)

The Forester is LONG overdue for either a 5 speed auto or a CVT. 2011 or 2012 models will probably finally get one of these transmissions.
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Re: AT vs MT [samiam_68] by kurtamaxxxguy
Oct 24, 2009 (12:51 pm)
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Replying to: samiam_68 (Oct 24, 2009 12:12 pm)

Unfortunately, the current 5 spd AT used in H6 models is not made by Subaru and is in limited supply, hence its limited usage by Subaru.
 
Subaru has stated they plan to move the CVT into more vehicles, with the Forester being a likely choice for 2012 model year.
 
Whether the CVT will become robust enough to replace the 4spd AT in the XT models, or H6 Legacy/Outback models, remains to be seen.
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Re: AT vs MT [samiam_68] by ecotrklvr
Oct 24, 2009 (4:32 pm)
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Replying to: samiam_68 (Oct 24, 2009 8:45 am)

Yup, sure did mean X Premium. That's what I get for putting up a post after midnight.
 
So, with the non-turbo model, same question - Manual or Auto?
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Re: AT vs MT [ecotrklvr] by billwv
Oct 24, 2009 (6:55 pm)
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Replying to: ecotrklvr (Oct 24, 2009 4:32 pm)

Its all a matter of personal choice...
 
I have the 4AT and am happy with it. I use the manual mode going down hills for engine braking, which works well -- I live in WV.
 
But, the manual mode is no substitute for a stick shift if that is your thinking.
 
Bill
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Re: AT vs MT [ecotrklvr] by xwesx
Oct 26, 2009 (8:30 am)
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Replying to: ecotrklvr (Oct 24, 2009 4:32 pm)

When you stated "quick-shifter," did you mean the short-throw shifter?
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Re: AT vs MT [ecotrklvr] by ateixeira
Oct 27, 2009 (11:08 am)
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Replying to: ecotrklvr (Oct 24, 2009 4:32 pm)

Manual.
 
Spend $800 or so less to begin with.
 
CR got 25 mpg vs. 22 mpg for the automatic, despite what EPA lab tests say the MT5 wins in the real world.
 
And...it's quicker.
 
A new clutch is a few hundred, a new automatic is a few thousand.
 
Having said all that my wife got an automatic - she really wanted the Limited and that's the only way it comes.
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manual forester by bkaiser1
Oct 27, 2009 (2:36 pm)
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If I were buying one, I'd absolutely get the manual transmission -- and that's not to say that the automatic is "bad", it's just that there's truly no substitute for having a true manual transmission.
 
All of my cars have had manual transmissions, but for my most recent purchase (an 05 Honda Element) I decided to go with an auto-trans because an AWD Element with a manual transmission is nearly impossible to come by around here (pre-owned, anyways). Every time I get in my Element, I regret not holding out until I found a manual transmission model...and I LOVE everything else about the car, but have grown to hate the 4sp auto transmission. It drives me crazy in the mountains, although around town it's not too bad.
 
Both of my Subarus that I owned previously had manuals and were fun to drive -- and the benefit (I believe) of having the 50:50 default split of the AWD was preferable to me over the 90:10 split of the auto Subarus. And, as already mentioned, most evidence suggests much better fuel economy with the manual transmission.
 
Advice? Buy the manual Forester...
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2009 subaru forester recall by pharmd718
Oct 31, 2009 (12:44 pm)
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Just got this email from Subaru:
 
During a quality review, we discovered that under certain severe driving patterns, such as high speed highway/uphill driving and/or accelerating with high engine revolutions, the efficiency of your vehicle’s catalytic converter may begin to degrade beyond design parameters. (The “Check Engine” light will illuminate to alert you if the catalytic converter efficiency has degraded beyond an acceptable level and if your vehicle may be releasing air pollutants that exceed Federal or California emission standards.) To prevent this condition, Subaru has developed a modification to the Engine Control Module software logic that will improve management of the catalytic converter. This software change will not adversely affect the performance of your vehicle.
 
WHAT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO DO PROMPTLY
We suggest that you schedule an appointment with your Subaru dealer as soon as possible to have your vehicle’s Engine Control Module software reprogrammed. The approximate time to perform this update is 40 minutes. However, it may be necessary for you to leave your car for a longer period on the day of your scheduled appointment to allow your dealer flexibility in scheduling other appointments. Your Subaru dealer will perform this repair at no cost to you.

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