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Re: Running on the beach [xwesx] by kurtamaxxxguy
Oct 19, 2009 (5:39 pm)
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Replying to: xwesx (Oct 19, 2009 3:55 pm)

Also note that the non-turbo '09 (and probably '10) X appear to have a faster throttle tip-in than the XT.
You'll notice it mostly in 1st gear at stoplights or at low speeds, where a tap of the throttle has the X jumping forward where the XT simply moves forward.
 
Also, the '09 XT's turbo boost appears to start around 2500 rpm and is pretty much all there just over 3000 rpm.
 
That's my experiences, anyway...your mileage may differ
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Re: Running on the beach [ateixeira] by volkov
Oct 19, 2009 (5:57 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 19, 2009 12:20 pm)

I disagree there Juice, I'm pretty sure at the rev range you'd be running from a standing start that you'd see more torque from the n/a XS than the turbo. If you're up to 3k revs where the turbo starts pulling away, you'll certainly be spinning the wheels, defeating the purpose.
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Re: Running on the beach [volkov] by ateixeira
Oct 20, 2009 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: volkov (Oct 19, 2009 5:57 pm)

Yeah, guess so. At that rpm the turbo is in vacuum mode anyway, not providing boost until pressure builds.
 
Also, the n/a engine has a higher compression ratio and would make more power until the boost does arrive (hence the term "turbo lag" - you get slightly less power, then much more).
 
I think both of those were automatics.
 
The first did not appear to have traction control, but the 2nd did. There was much less wheelspin with the 2nd one. It was more controlled.
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Re: Running on the beach [ateixeira] by kurtamaxxxguy
Oct 20, 2009 (9:41 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 20, 2009 7:06 am)

My guess is older Foresters used a Limited slip rear dif to try to handle the side-side torque transfer, while new '09 and up Foresters rely on brake-based VTC for this task.
 
Apparently, the '10 Outback 3.6R (and the '09) has both LSD in back and VTC. The new rear suspension in the '10 appears to have tamed the swing-out the earlier models showed in some testing.
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Re: Running on the beach [kurtamaxxxguy] by ateixeira
Oct 20, 2009 (11:58 am)
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Oct 20, 2009 9:41 am)

The XT and XS had the rear viscous limited-slip diff, but I think the base X model only had an open diff. The front diff was open on all models.
 
That meant zero or 1 axles were "managed" for traction.
 
Now VDC manages both axles, even on the base model. That's an important improvement.
 
And note that many competitors have traction control or AWD acting at any given time, often not both. The Forester lets them act in unison. That's why if you watch the video again, all 4 wheels are accelerating, and forward progress is easy even from a dead stop in soft sand.
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Re: Running on the beach [noey8] by 26cars
Oct 20, 2009 (7:17 pm)
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Replying to: noey8 (Oct 19, 2009 11:40 am)

Thanks for the utube link, watched a bunch of the others there as well. Gives me a new appreciation of the capabilities of this little truck! Although I'll probably pass on the rock crawling and jumping.
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Re: Running on the beach [ateixeira] by billwv
Oct 21, 2009 (6:22 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 20, 2009 11:58 am)

"Now VDC manages both axles, even on the base model. That's an important improvement."
 
Yes -- I think the VDC, VTC, AWD and 4AT are all electronically integrated to produce a very effective system.
 
I've been very impressed with handling in snow.
 
Bill
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Re: Running on the beach [billwv] by ateixeira
Oct 23, 2009 (6:35 am)
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Replying to: billwv (Oct 21, 2009 6:22 pm)

We haven't had enough snow to really challenge our Forester.
 
They say this year we'll have more snow here in the DC area, if so we'll see.
 
My Miata has summer tires so it's absolutely out of the question in bad weather. Our van in FWD and the stability control is too intrusive, though it's better when you turn it "off".
 
Still, the Forester will do all the snow duty, no question.
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AT vs MT by ecotrklvr
Oct 23, 2009 (11:02 pm)
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OK, so I'm undecided, and I'm asking for your help. Driven stick all my life, but last two vehicles have been automatics because the Highlander doesn't come in stick. Honda dropped the manual trans option from the CR-V and Toyota did the same on the RAV-4. Which leaves me shopping for a Subaru Forester.
 
I've driven 2010 Forester XT Premium in both Auto and Manual. The manual was nice, and the Auto was very good for an auto. In Manual-mode, it even seems to rev-match on a downshift going into a corner. But these were both 3 mile test drives at best.
 
So what do y'all think? Also, anyone have the quick-shifter installed? A review of the before/after experience would be most welcome.
 
Thanks in advance.
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Re: AT vs MT [ecotrklvr] by samiam_68
Oct 24, 2009 (8:45 am)
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Replying to: ecotrklvr (Oct 23, 2009 11:02 pm)

I don't think Forester XT comes with a manual. Do you mean Forester X premium?

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