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Re: 2009 Forester reliability in CR- why just average? [bikerguy3] by kurtamaxxxguy
Jul 14, 2009 (6:58 pm)
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Replying to: bikerguy3 (Jul 14, 2009 4:26 pm)

thanks...when I have decent pry tools, I will give it a try.
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Re: 2009 Forester reliability in CR- why just average? [kurtamaxxxguy] by pgb0517
Jul 14, 2009 (7:56 pm)
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Jul 14, 2009 11:43 am)

I am afraid that quality is going to continue to go out the window to achieve the MPG mandates coming down, reduce cost and weight, and so forth. But the MPG requirements will probably be the biggest factor. We will all be driving junk in a few years.
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Re: 2009 Forester reliability in CR- why just average? [pgb0517] by saedave
Jul 15, 2009 (6:11 am)
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Replying to: pgb0517 (Jul 14, 2009 7:56 pm)

But the MPG requirements will probably be the biggest factor. We will all be driving junk in a few years.
 
No, it won't be junk at all. But it probably will be considerably more expensive, necessitating a longer ownership period for new cars. Increased mpg in the same size vehicle means more costly materials like high strength steel, aluminum and magnesium, composites and new designs for heavy components like seats. brake master cylinders and discs, wheels, tires, and glass. The old way is to get strength from material thickness; the new way is to improve the design.
 
Some of these new designs pose problems for reconstruction after a crash: That may raise insurance cost. In short.....expect to spend more and keep your car longer.
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Re: 2009 Forester reliability in CR- why just average? [saedave] by pgb0517
Jul 16, 2009 (10:41 am)
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Replying to: saedave (Jul 15, 2009 6:11 am)

You make valid points, but when I say junk, I mean that the trend toward junky, flimsy interior and exterior finishes and trim will continue to get worse, as it has for a while. That's where manufacturers have been and will continue to be shaving costs and weight. We should demand cars that run well and wear well.
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Re: 2009 Forester reliability in CR- why just average? [pgb0517] by saedave
Jul 16, 2009 (10:56 am)
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Replying to: pgb0517 (Jul 16, 2009 10:41 am)

flimsy interior and exterior finishes and trim will continue to get worse, as it has for a while.
 
Worse includes not having standard protective cladding and door bump strips on the Forester as compared to the Outback; there is a reason for the lower price besides reduced overall length. At least you can order many of these at extra cost.
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Re: 2009 Forester reliability in CR- why just average? [bikerguy3] by confused25
Jul 16, 2009 (5:52 pm)
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Replying to: bikerguy3 (Jul 14, 2009 10:18 am)

Thanks. I came across a really good picture of what you are referring to on the Subaru Forester Owners Forum (www.subaruforester.org). You have to register (it is free) and type "2009 Subaru Forester door rattle" in the search field. The pictures are pretty good. I tried to cut-and-paste them in this reply but it will not work. Hope this helps others.
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Re: 2009 Forester reliability in CR- why just average? [confused25] by kurtamaxxxguy
Jul 16, 2009 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: confused25 (Jul 16, 2009 5:52 pm)

http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/f88/09-door-panel-rattle-tsb-info-45992/- - -
 
is that actual page at subaruforester.org. Apparently the fix was called a "Tech tip" and not a TSB.
 
http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/attachments/f106/15990d1233599257-tech-t- ip-2009-forester-buzzing-rattle-noise-front-doors-09doorrattlett.jpg
 
is a concise summary the site posted as a .jpg.
 
The waffle baffle they describe is on the lower left of the driver door (lower right of passenger door), behind the interior trim and a thin plastic air barrier held in place by butyl rubber strips.
 
If you look very closely at the pics you can see the holes where the inner trim snaps into the door.
 
I also saw internal wiring that might be the cause of a buzz just above the door handle release.
 
When I get brave I may try removing the door trim to secure everything.
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Re: 2009 Forester reliability in CR- why just average? [saedave] by pgb0517
Jul 16, 2009 (8:55 pm)
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Replying to: saedave (Jul 16, 2009 10:56 am)

I copied my comments about interior/exterior quality posted above into an e-mail that I sent to Subaru. Their customer service rep has replied and assured me such e-mails are reviewed at their monthly product planning board meeting. She also is passing them on to my dealer. However, as I told her, our dealer is great, and we have no complaints there. But we all need to put pressure on all car makers to stop with the cheap stuff, already, on a car we pay well over 20 grand for.
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sunroof headliner rattle by birdboy
Jul 18, 2009 (5:37 pm)
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hello, when my sunroof is fully opened there is a persistent annoying rattle coming from the vibrating headliner shade. Does anyone have a fix suggestion for this?
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Annoying seat belt warning by redherring1
Jul 22, 2009 (6:28 am)
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Hi all--Haven't posted for a while, but happily really nothing to post--my XT Ltd. has been amazingly free of any glitches, rattles or general annoyances (except as noted below), and getting on toward 7k miles. Average mileage since new is only 18.3 mpg, but the bulk of my driving is short hops and city traffic, so not optimal mpg conditions for any car. An 8" diameter, 12 foot long tree branch fell on it last month and dented the roof a little, but the fact that it didn't do more damage is a testament to the strength of the roof rails, which bore the bulk of the hit and are absolutely undamaged.
 
As to my one general annoyance--I wouldn't do this, it would be wrong, but theoretically if I were to want to disconnect the seat belt chime, does anybody know how to do this? I don't mind it really except it immediately starts bitching at you the minute the car starts to move--the one in my Acura at least has the patience to wait about 30 seconds before doing so. I always wear the belt, but don't always want to have to do it by the time I reach the end of the driveway.

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