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Forester X cost for 10,000 miles of driving; $2.69 gal  22 mpg $1222 Forester XT cost for 10,000 miles driving; $2.99 gal 20 mpg $1495 Outback H6 cost for 10,000 miles driving: $2.69 gal 18 mpg $1494 These are all 2010 models being compared. Interesting that fuel expense for the Outback H6 is similar to the Forester XT.
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Jun 30, 2009 6:28 pm) The CVT Outback 2.5i is rated at 31mpg highway, mama-mia! Ultra-tall highway gearing gets the credit for that, it's chugging along at 2000rpm at 80mph. That makes me want to sample a Forester CVT...it's lighter, maybe 32mpg? Sign me up!
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 01, 2009 9:46 am) But at what price? I would not be surprised at higher production cost for the CVT than the 4-speed's guts which is probably a high volume production JATCO unit. Does anyone know who actually builds the CVT belt assembly? It would be no surprise if it is JATCO with parts shared by Nissan and Toyota.
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Replying to: saedave (Jul 01, 2009 12:29 pm) Several articles said the Subaru CVT's chain is licensed and sourced from the same company building Audi's CVT's (it does not use a belt - the chain has much greater strength and wear resistance). The rest of the CVT is built by Subaru. The 5-speed auto is probably the same one Subaru has used in the past with a few updates. I've read it's sourced from Nissan and is in limited supply.
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Those wanting to report their Forester's reliability, especially those with XT's, might want to visit the truedelta.com website and give them your service history. They ask very few "personal" questions. I don't work for them, BTW. |
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Jul 01, 2009 4:18 pm) Subaru has previously stated that it is a JATCO 4 speed modified by Subaru to five speeds. I believe the modification process is the bottleneck. If the CVT chain and pulleys are common with Audi why the seemingly low torque capacity? Or is there a fore-and-aft dimension increase that is incompatible with the six cylinder in the chassis?
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 01, 2009 9:46 am) The '10 OB CVT is rated 29 MPG on the highway. Legacy CVT is 31. |
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Replying to: saedave (Jul 02, 2009 5:48 am) Bob
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Replying to: rsholland (Jul 02, 2009 8:29 am) Or cheap. The cost of re-certifying a low volume product with the CVT could have been too much....and if fuel economy rules are tightened much more the 3.6 liter engine with either transmission may become history.
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Replying to: saedave (Jul 02, 2009 1:17 pm) That should improve fuel economy and low end power for all their engines.  They also should get rid of the series coolant flow of the H-4 engines and use the parallel flow scheme the H-6 gained when adapted for the Tribeca. That change in cooling was one reason the H-6 became able to use regular grade gasoline. ....and yeah, they'll have to redesign the H-4 engine block for that, which is a big expense. 
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