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Re: Hello again.... after 9 years. [ateixeira] by sd70
Jun 23, 2009 (6:54 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 23, 2009 12:25 pm)

Good advice Juice. I was leaning in that direction. The redesign of the Forester has me a bit excited and it should keep me posting here again for a while. In fact, it has created a renewed interest in the old Forester. I'm actually planning to recondition the paint a bit and repaint the old steelies to get them looking new again.
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Re: Hello again.... after 9 years. [sd70] by ateixeira
Jun 24, 2009 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: sd70 (Jun 23, 2009 6:54 pm)

Time for a clay bar treatment?
 
The guy who bought my 1998 drives it near where I work. I saw it on the street one time and it was filthy, I nearly cried.
 
When I had it that thing was in great shape, the wheels were even waxed. At 9 years of age it looked like maybe a 2 year old car.
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Better Rear Shocks? by kurtamaxxxguy
Jun 24, 2009 (12:12 pm)
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I'm noticing the '09 XT has one odd quirk. It loves to slam its rear wheels back down after going over bumps. Examples are speed bumps; the front goes over fine but the back likes to "kick its heels" (jumps up and slams its suspension bottom limit).
 
I suspect there isn't enough rebound damping. My brother's Lexus 400h goes over the same speed bumps without any kickback.
 
Any suggestions for shocks that provide a little more rebound damping? I may change them over when the main vehicle warranty expires in another year and a half.
I don't plan to change the springs as there's no interest in lowering the vehicle!
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Re: Hello again.... after 9 years. [ateixeira] by sd70
Jun 24, 2009 (5:22 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 24, 2009 9:16 am)

Well. I was thinking clay bar or Meguiars Ultimate Compounnd, then polish, then wax. Then I'll hit the wheels with some Duplicolor wheel paint to bring them up to snuff.
 
Anyway..... I'm getting a bit off topic so i'll stop hijacking the thread now.
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2009 Forester reliability in CR- why just average? by maybesubie1
Jun 29, 2009 (7:21 pm)
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I am giving serious thought to turning in my '98 Explorer under the C4C program and would likely look at smaller SUV's. There seem to be quite a few good vehicles in the category. 2009 Forester is one of my favorites, but I noticed in Consumer Reports that it didn't score too well on reliability- I think it was ranked as average. Does anyone know what is hurting the reliability score? I can't find any information on that. Maybe just typical first-year issues? To me dependability is big issue and if the Forester is just average that's a concern. Thanks!
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Re: 2009 Forester reliability in CR- why just average? [maybesubie1] by kurtamaxxxguy
Jun 29, 2009 (9:41 pm)
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Replying to: maybesubie1 (Jun 29, 2009 7:21 pm)

2009 was a first year model. It suffered from rattles, various engine glitches, and other first year hiccups. Some XT owners had engine failure (you can read those reviews in Edmund's consumer reviews).
 
Subaru is currently well below average for initial problems with cars. Still, "well below average" means they have 1 or 2 more problems per vehicle than the best cars.
 
I'd suggest waiting for the '10's as they should have '09 TBS's addressed during assembly.
 
CU ratings are sometimes hard to decipher (a car that does well in measurements may be rated lower in total, when compared to other brands) but in absolute terms, everything for '09 Forester appears to rate as "better" save fuel system and power equipment, which rate "better-average".
 
I'd suggest researching your potential dealer to make sure they have a good service department and will fix whatever warranted problems you encounter.
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Re: 2009 Forester reliability in CR- why just average? [maybesubie1] by ateixeira
Jun 30, 2009 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: maybesubie1 (Jun 29, 2009 7:21 pm)

First year model, like Kurt said, so call it v1.0 Syndrome.
 
Still, the average car today is very reliable, much more so than, say, in the 1980s.
 
Having said that, we have all sort of conflicting early information:
 
JD Powers says it's slightly below average in their IQS study.
CR predicts "Average" reliability.
TrueDelta recorded promising early numbers and the Forester stands out as one of the most reliable new cars for them.
 
Hard to say what that means in the long-term.
 
I had a 1998 Forester, which was the very first, and it gave me 9 great years of service and even sold for 40% of what I paid originally, so I'm not concerned.
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Re: Very rough cold start. [iamrod] by billwv
Jun 30, 2009 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: iamrod (Jun 14, 2009 7:30 pm)

Hello iamrod,
 
As a follow up in my situation, and information which may be useful to you:
 
Is yours a PZEV?
 
Talked with rep today after he experienced cold start:
 
It is normal for PZEV which tries to throw exhaust back into catalitic converter. What convinced me, he explained it will stop the roughness if you hit the gas or if you shift to N -- both of these I have experienced. He said many complain.
 
Only happens with PZEV 4AT.
 
He also said impossible for engine to do anything abnormal without setting lights/codes.
 
I am now convinced it is normal. Hope this helps you.
 
Am interested in your experience with dealer.
 
Bill
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Re: 2009 Forester reliability in CR- why just average? [maybesubie1] by bikerguy3
Jun 30, 2009 (10:56 am)
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Replying to: maybesubie1 (Jun 29, 2009 7:21 pm)

I concur with the other posted responses... most of the issues that are negatively
impacting the '09 Forester reliability ratings are related to it being a new 1st-year
model.
 
I bought my '09 Forester X M/T w/ Premium Package when shipments first arrived
(Feb 08). I now have about 15K miles on the vehicle.
 
While I've been fortunate and not experienced most of the problems
posted/reported, I've had one minor issue (rattle from inside door) which I fixed
myself; and one major issue which was undersized plastic film rear fender
protectors which required (under warranty) repainting and upgrading of the plastic
film (which Subaru phased into all production vehicles by mid-2008). To their credit,
Subaru did step up and repair my Forester under warranty with no hassle.
 
I also upgraded the not-so-great (IMHO) stock stereo system.
 
The only "nagging" concern I harbor is with the long-term durability of the
body/paint. Only time will tell, but the exterior appears to be very thin and
lightweight (compared to other vehicles I own/have owned)... hopefully there
will be no issues down the road.
 
Based on my ownership experience to date, I am confident the Forester will prove
out to be a very reliable vehicle. And for me the feature mix is unbeatable - ie I
wanted inclement weather performance (AWD), big sunroof, manual xmission, good fuel economy, SUV/wagon stowage capacity, and reasonable purchase price.
The '09 Forester delivers on this and more!
 
Good luck with your purchase decision...
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Re: 2009 Forester reliability in CR- why just average? [maybesubie1] by maybesubie1
Jun 30, 2009 (5:14 pm)
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Replying to: maybesubie1 (Jun 29, 2009 7:21 pm)

Thanks all. I would not be looking at a turbo, so the engine problem doesn't bother me too much. I have heard concerns about the paint- not a big deal. Also not looking for a premium audio system. Glad to hear that most of the issues are minor and may get ironed out as they get into the 2010's.

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