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#2905 of 3661 Re: First Accident [jbkennedy] by connieylee Jan 19, 2009 (7:51 pm)
Replying to: jbkennedy (Jan 19, 2009 7:43 pm) So sorry to hear about your accident. That's a good question I'd like to know the answer to as well. Where are you located? I'm in NJ. Been waiting for a windshield for my 2009 Forester for 3 weeks now, and I'm praying mine will hold up until it comes in. Replies to this message: kurtamaxxxguy (Jan 19, 2009 8:33 pm) jbkennedy (Jan 20, 2009 6:27 pm)
#2906 of 3661 Re: First Accident [connieylee] by kurtamaxxxguy Jan 19, 2009 (8:33 pm)
Replying to: connieylee (Jan 19, 2009 7:51 pm) Not sure about general parts situation but have noticed it took 3 weeks to get a Hood-mounted intercooler baffle ordered. The northwest got screwed up pretty badly by a major storm in December, and Washington has been hard hit by rain recently. I-5 was flooded for several days (again). All of this has probably delayed some parts shipments.
#2907 of 3661 Re: Time.com Article [tinycadon] by pharmd718 Jan 20, 2009 (12:18 pm)
Replying to: tinycadon (Jan 13, 2009 5:00 am) Subaru buyers tend to be overeducated; they buy less car than they can afford and hang on to it forever. "They pay cash, and then you never see them again,"   Wow...im impressed! I am overeducated (doctor of pharmacy), paid cash for the car, could have easily bought a more expensive car, and plan on keeping it for many years to come.   ............big brother is watching! see you in 7.3 years......... Replies to this message: ponytrekker (Jan 20, 2009 7:36 pm)
#2908 of 3661 Re: SOA sucks! [veritasusa] by kcflyer Jan 20, 2009 (1:58 pm)
Replying to: veritasusa (Sep 23, 2008 12:03 pm) I too am a little peeved by the options packages. I don't want a sunroof. I do need a telescoping wheel. Why they force a big ticket item like a sunroof on you and then withhold the simple but coveted telescoping wheel unless you spring for the top of the line is frustrating. What they are doing is forcing me to crossshop more expensive competitors vehicles because in order to get the options I want I have to buy a bunch of stuff I don't. Replies to this message: kurtamaxxxguy (Jan 20, 2009 4:41 pm) billwv (Jan 20, 2009 8:14 pm) bigfrank3 (Jan 21, 2009 11:07 am)
#2909 of 3661 shields, and LED footwell lights = no bargin by kurtamaxxxguy Jan 20, 2009 (4:38 pm)
I've seen the new Scotchguard shields for the Forester rear fenders, and they are about 3 times the size of the old ones. Unfortunately, my generally good dealer got fingerprints on the inside of one of them, (black fingerprints show up on a white car), so they will have to be redone.   It also costs $170 for the new "front footwell" LED lights. The dealer gave me no labor estimate (the parts are around $40), and it took them a ridiculous amount of time to figure out the proper wires to connect to. No bargin, those The kit consists of two square tiles, each with 2 LED's, that get mounted under the front dash, only light up when the headlamps or parking light/markers are turned on, and switch off with the headlights (either manually or when key is removed). They do not get in the way of feet or anything under the dash.   The kit does _not_ include lights for the rear footwells.
#2910 of 3661 Re: SOA sucks! [kcflyer] by kurtamaxxxguy Jan 20, 2009 (4:41 pm)
Replying to: kcflyer (Jan 20, 2009 1:58 pm) An earlier poster said this is a FHI issue, not Subaru; FHI makes it very difficult for Subaru USA to mix and match options.   Yes, it would make more sense to offer a tilt-and-telescope option across the line. The lack of telescoping steering was one reason I ignored Subaru for so long.
#2911 of 3661 Re: First Accident [connieylee] by jbkennedy Jan 20, 2009 (6:27 pm)
Replying to: connieylee (Jan 19, 2009 7:51 pm) Houston, TX Dealer - Gillman Subaru
#2912 of 3661 Re: Time.com Article [pharmd718] by ponytrekker Jan 20, 2009 (7:36 pm)
Replying to: pharmd718 (Jan 20, 2009 12:18 pm) Good cars but they tend to get a little ratty with age. Good for local driving but I'm hesitant to take our 02 outback w 96k on a long trip.   But they are the best of a lot of worlds: AWD, good crash test scores, reasonable fuel economy.
#2913 of 3661 Re: SOA sucks! [kcflyer] by billwv Jan 20, 2009 (8:14 pm)
Replying to: kcflyer (Jan 20, 2009 1:58 pm) I agree, the options packages are too limited. Like you, there is no way I want a sunroof. I went for the base 2.5x 4AT-- I was able to get a good driving position without the telescoping wheel.   The dealers like these packages because there tends to be more profit markup on them. The younger buyers, of course want all the stuff, and figure its just a little more payment each month.   I would like to have had the heated mirrors and wiper area, but ain't no way I am paying $4,000 more for it.   I am happy with my purchase, and I love the car.   Bill Replies to this message: bigfrank3 (Jan 21, 2009 11:07 am)
#2914 of 3661 Re: SOA sucks! [billwv] by bigfrank3 Jan 21, 2009 (11:07 am)
Replying to: billwv (Jan 20, 2009 8:14 pm) The problem with options and packages started years ago when the gov started with the fuel requirement certification. EVERY combination sold had to be tested and certified even if it made no sense. If a right side mirror were offered the vehicle had to be certified with the mirror, if a fancy stereo were offered it had to be done again. Then it had to be done with the combinations, mirror with stereo, etc. So if there were 20 separate options available it got quite costly for the manufacturer. The cost back then was something like $500 for each test and certification, I am sure it is more now.   The manufacturers quickly realized that packages were the answer, so guessed on what most people would want and put them together. This has of course hurt the ability for us, the consumer, to get exactly the vehicle we want. They try to balance the certification cost with the option packages offered to appeal to what they think we will buy as it might be "close enough".   I am sure the certification requirements have evolved to make more sense, since originally it was based on weight added, but manufacturers still want to limit choices for assembly line reasons.

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