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#2892 of 3748 Re: Inside chemical fogging of windows [sgloon]
Jan 16, 2009 (11:57 am)
Outgassing is in general hard to remove. I've had issue with Prius, Camry and Malibu vehicles.
Normal window cleaners such as Windex proved useless. Specialized cleaners such as Stoner Invisible Glass, or Meguiars (this one claims to have anti-haze properties) have better success.
There was a web-based report a short time ago regarding toxicity of automotive plastics, and '09 Forester received medium concern rating; big offender was Bromine in door trim and front seat. Bromine is used as part of flame retardants.
By comparison the 2007 Forester got a high concern rating and listed as one of the worst.
The improvement's a sign that perhaps Subaru took this seriously and is in progress of reducing internal emissions.
www.healthycar.org has the ratings.
If you have enclosed parking and/or heated garage, parking with all or at least front windows open will allow outgassing to occur when vehicle's not in use.
As mentioned earlier, outgassing is the plasticers gradually leaving the plastics that they are contained in. As time passes, those plastics will turn hard and brittle: unfortunately the normal aging process for plastics. Hopefully that will not occur within the vehicles' designed life span (and only Subaru has any idea what that is ).
#2893 of 3748 Re: Inside chemical fogging of windows [ateixeira]
Jan 16, 2009 (10:44 pm)
I recall that I was told, back when I was a kid, that it was the black ink in the paper that had some effect. I was also told that the "colored" newspaper was not as effective. I never tested it out, however, I've always just used the black based on that. I don't know the why???
#2894 of 3748 Re: Replacing Windshield [connieylee]
Jan 16, 2009 (10:45 pm)
Well...I am at a little over 10,000 miles, and I have had to replace 2 windshields on my 2009 Forester Premium Edition. It has cracked in the exact same place, right behind the rear view mirror. The first one the dealer did not warranty. The second one happened today, and I am waiting to see if they will warranty it. This is my first Subaru. I may sell it if it continues to be a hassle.
#2895 of 3748 Re: Subaru Remotes [capitano]
Jan 17, 2009 (1:11 am)
Mine goes through walls and has worked from at least 50 feet away. Perhaps it needs a new battery???
#2896 of 3748 Re: Replacing Windshield [jtez]
Jan 17, 2009 (1:13 am)
YIKES!!! Boy, that sure sounds like they need to cover it under warranty. Both windows.
#2897 of 3748 Re: Replacing Windshield [sgloon]
Jan 17, 2009 (8:23 am)
I agree...they should have covered both, but didn't even offer. So...anyway the first one is paid and I am hoping "in good faith" that they will honor a warranty on the second windshield. Has anyone else had a windshield crack right behind the rear view mirror on this model?
#2898 of 3748 Re: Replacing Windshield [jtez]
Jan 17, 2009 (11:59 am)
Not yet, but a question....
does your '09 have the automatic day-night mirror?
I've noticed the cable for this mirror can get pinched by the headliner, and could then apply stress to the glass. That cable proved a source for a lot of creaking noises until rerouted to a position where it stopped creaking.
The mirror itself is glued to the windshield (the rectangular plastic strut from mirror to top of windshield covers the cable but offers no support to the mirror).
#2899 of 3748 Cracked Windshield-FYI
Jan 18, 2009 (6:49 am)
In June, my 09 LLBean Windshield cracked also behind the rear view mirror. I remember hearing a loud pebble or something hitting it days before I noticed the crack. Since there were no aftermarket ones available, a new factory glass with heated elements was replaced by my insurance company.
#2900 of 3748 Re: Cracked Windshield-FYI [birdboy]
Jan 18, 2009 (9:22 am)
That is interesting. You say you heard a pebble or something hit your windshield, but did you actually see the pebble. My thought is that the noise was the windshield cracking, not necessarily due to debris but possibly unknown pressure from a "design flaw".
And to answer another post: my rear view mirror is the "auto day/ night" feature.
#2901 of 3748 Re: Replacing Windshield [jtez]
Jan 18, 2009 (10:41 am)
In my experience, they typically won't OFFER to do something. But, if you press them and explain your reasons, ie that it could be a design flaw (ex. kurt's post) and not a rock through the windsheild, they should still cover it.
They can still cover the first one by reimbursing you for your deductible and any other out of pocket expenses. Subaru would automatically assume it was a rock or some such. They just need some convincing. Also, noting the other post here, where the windshield cracked in the same place could net you the new windshield and your deductible.
Twice is not a coincidence in this case.