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My 09 Forester is only my second vehicle with a key fob remote. It seems to be noticeably weaker than the Toyota one I use on my other vehicle. By weaker I mean that if I am walking away from the vehicle holding the remote in front of me it will not lock the car. My body is enough to block the signal. The Toyota remote has had the same battery for five and half years and doesn't have this problem. Is this normal for Subarus?
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Replying to: capitano (Jan 15, 2009 1:46 pm) |
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Replying to: sgloon (Jan 15, 2009 11:24 am) I would describe what we "see" as greasy, that smears easily when touched. I have tried all kinds of cleaners and all kinds of paper towels, even newspaper. Nothing is great, and I usually have to clean the windshield at least 3 times to get it satisfactory for a short while. I agree that it is a real pain. What I have found that helps is to clean and protect the dash vinyl areas including the defroster vents. I have used a couple of things for this, 303 being one, but what I find the best is the Armor All product. This is not the original one that leaves everything too shiny and gives reflections, but the one in the bottle with the black and blue label. It is offered as a cleaner but the small print says it also protects. This stops or at least slows the out-gassing. By the way, when you see an old car with the dash all cracked and split, that is because all the plasticizer has out-gassed from the vinyl. It is put into the process for flexibility. The plasticizer is the greasy smear. |
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Replying to: sgloon (Jan 15, 2009 11:24 am) FYI, my 04 Forester never had any noticeable outgassing problems because it has a hard plastic dash. My 96 Legacy had a pretty bad problem because of soft vinyl dash, but only in hot/warm weather.
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Replying to: xwesx (Jan 15, 2009 12:32 pm) Bill |
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Replying to: samiam_68 (Jan 15, 2009 2:55 pm) The reason is that snow from our boots collects on the floor and floor mats. As the cabin section heats up the high rise in humidity of melting snow hits the cold windows and condenses. This creates fogging. Outside air being drier keeps the humidity level lower. Jim
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Replying to: w8ifi (Jan 16, 2009 2:30 am) Thanks for your response. Unfortunately, no the fogging occurs any time I am running the defrost/heater. We haven't had any snow in a while now. The "fog" is not water vapor which can be wiped off. This is a greasy film, that apparently Subaru knows about, but isn't doing anything about. If I used my car every day, I would have to wash all of the windows every day in order to be safe driving the car. On trips to Denver, an hour away, it is a concern as coming back is pretty unsafe to drive due to the build up of this greasy substance on the windshield. Worse, it is hard to wash off. The typical windex, glass plus and other alcohol base cleaners don't take it off, they just smear the film. One dealer told me they used some industrial cleaner to get it off. I don't have access to that, so I keep cleaning it with off the shelf stuff which doesn't really get it off. It gets better, but it is still and issue. Also, now in the daytime, the dash and anything on the dash is very clearly reflected in the glass, so that is also not good for driving either. I am also very concerned that I am breathing this stuff and injuring my health. Lately my lymphnodes in the back of my throat have swollen up and it is hard to swallow, etc. I have never had this type of "sickness", and I haven't been sick, not even a cold, for several years. I'm guessing it is related to this gaseous material that I am breathing in in the car. And it isn't a cold, as I haven't moved into the rest of the usual cold symptoms. Is anyone else having this in their car???
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Replying to: sgloon (Jan 16, 2009 8:03 am) My dealer's response: Never heard of a fogging problem before. I e-mailed Subaru some time back and they told me the problem was "normal" and the gasses were not hazardous (sure). My 02 Outback stopped fogging up after the first summer. If you haven't already, I suggest a call to Subaru to at least document the problem. |
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| 09 forester my.Daughter left towel on floor rear passenger,picked up towel,a heavy towel and found it to be completely soacked.Upon further investigation found floor mat completely wet and also carpet underneath,lifted carpet and found yellow foam padding wet enough that you would be able to wring it out.Have not read any posts on this forum in regards to this problem,but have read of others having similar prolems on another subie forum.Is anyone else experiencing similar problems,or are there any ideas out there for what could be causing this.There had been no rain for previous week before discovery.TY | |
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Replying to: sgloon (Jan 16, 2009 8:03 am) Normal window cleaners such as Windex proved useless. Specialized cleaners such as Stoner Invisible Glass, or Meguiars (this one claims to have anti-haze properties) have better success. There was a web-based report a short time ago regarding toxicity of automotive plastics, and '09 Forester received medium concern rating; big offender was Bromine in door trim and front seat. Bromine is used as part of flame retardants. By comparison the 2007 Forester got a high concern rating and listed as one of the worst. The improvement's a sign that perhaps Subaru took this seriously and is in progress of reducing internal emissions. www.healthycar.org has the ratings. If you have enclosed parking and/or heated garage, parking with all or at least front windows open will allow outgassing to occur when vehicle's not in use. As mentioned earlier, outgassing is the plasticers gradually leaving the plastics that they are contained in. As time passes, those plastics will turn hard and brittle: unfortunately the normal aging process for plastics. Hopefully that will not occur within the vehicles' designed life span (and only Subaru has any idea what that is  ). |
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