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Re: Forester 2010 changes [tinycadon] by rsholland
Jan 14, 2009 (7:00 am)
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Replying to: tinycadon (Jan 14, 2009 6:39 am)

Still a few years off, from what I understand. Again, I would hopefully expect this at the mid-life refresh.
 
Bob
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Re: Forester search [samiam_68] by ateixeira
Jan 14, 2009 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: samiam_68 (Jan 13, 2009 5:22 pm)

Venza is a strange product because it's between a crossover and a wagon, a crosswagon?
 
Tribeca competes with the Highlander.
 
Forester competes with the RAV4.
 
Venza doesn't really have an equivalent in the Subaru lineup. If they up-size the new Outback, maybe they would match up better.
 
I find the Venza very handsome, despite an overdone grille, but I don't really "get" it. It's as big as the Highlander but probably has less space than the RAV4. No 3rd row option. It's not that light or fuel efficient. And it's sort of expensive.
 
I'm sure it will appeal to Lexus RX intenders who cannot afford to spend that much, but it's not for me. I either want performance or practicality, or even both. I'm not convinced the Venza offers either.
 
It will find its niche, though. The Murano sells well, and it's fairly similar.
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Re: Forester search [ateixeira] by rsholland
Jan 14, 2009 (10:03 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 14, 2009 9:08 am)

The Toyota dealer said the Venza is to compete with the Murano.
 
Bob
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Re: Forester search [ateixeira] by volkov
Jan 14, 2009 (10:06 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 14, 2009 9:08 am)

There are people like my wife who prefer a car/station wagon look to the tall SUV style, so there may be more of a market there. The AWD is a plus with only upscale brands or Subie as competition in a car platform. Venza in other jurisdictions gets the 3rd row, I wonder why it wasn't even an option here?
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Re: Forester search [volkov] by ateixeira
Jan 14, 2009 (11:08 am)
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Replying to: volkov (Jan 14, 2009 10:06 am)

Yeah, you follow the Crossover thread, and I mentioned the Mark X Zio (I think that's what it is called in other markets) and nobody even responded. Zero interest.
 
The Venza has not even been mentioned there. Perhaps it is too small to be considered as an alternative for the bigger crossovers that tend to dominate that thread.
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Re: Forester search [ateixeira] by volkov
Jan 14, 2009 (12:17 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 14, 2009 11:08 am)

Not to mention the whole issue of whether or not it's a crossover, whatever that truly means. Remember, some even questioned whether or not the Freestyle/Taurus X was a crossover versus just a station wagon. I'd argue that the Outback was the first true crossover but if it's just a jacked up Legacy which clearly isn't a crossover, then the dividing line can be problematic.
IMHO the Crossover forum is really the medium to big, car-based SUV forum because that's what are always discussed there.
Hee-hee, I couldn't leave the cargo thing alone, but I didn't think I was starting anything. Always comes down to starting with the vehicle you need and then getting what you want. Some folks over there don't seem to get that. Too much, "I own this so it's the best for everyone." On the cargo issue, dog carrying is really important for us, and no dog wants to ride behind the 3rd row of a Sienna - not that they would enjoy riding in the trunk of any crossover. I've really mollified otherwise, and realize that luggage or dog room is irrelevant if we keep the Yukon XL to use in those situations. If we went on vacation without the hounds, a Sienna and a roof carrier would still be more fuel efficient by far. It's all irrelevant though, because Dra is being an uncharacteristically indecisive shopper, and after a year and a half still hasn't commited to a new vehicle.
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Re: Forester search [volkov] by xwesx
Jan 14, 2009 (1:11 pm)
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Replying to: volkov (Jan 14, 2009 12:17 pm)

Dra is being an uncharacteristically indecisive shopper, and after a year and a half still hasn't commited to a new vehicle.
 
Well, I think that is preferable to what my wife did when we purchased our 2007 Outback. She said she would not consider anything except a Subaru, but she did not want an "older" one because she was not interested in high mileage or maintenance concerns. Okay, so that leaves a new Subaru. We decide on trim, I made her test drive one (since she wanted a manual), then we purchased one and brought it home. After that, she was disappointed with the feel of the car (interior rattles, cracking shift & parking brake boots, scuffs, etc) and said she would have liked to get an older ('96-'99) Subaru like our last one. Grr... that is what I was trying to get her to agree to buy all along! Hah!
 
Then, she starts saying about other new cars, "oh, that looks nice" and, "we should have looked at one of those." I would not call it buyer's remorse, but she certainly did her shopping once the cart was planted firmly in front of the horse. To her credit, though, she was very amenable to my suggestion that we do a vehicular about-face once we learned we were having another baby. It was expensive to get rid of the '07, but it has worked out beautifully in terms of cost savings over the last 18 months. I cannot believe it was two years ago already that I lost my '96 Outback. My how the time flies....
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Winter wiper blades by billwv
Jan 14, 2009 (4:23 pm)
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Hi All,
 
Had our first round of snow here. The car did great. But, the wipers did a terrible job: icing up, not clearing the windshield, etc. These are the stock blades.
 
What have others done? Do you have this problem? Does Subaru have a winter blade?
 
Sorry for all the questions, but I would really appreciate some advice.
 
Its hard to appreciate the good handling when you can't see -- other cars on the road didn't seem to have this problem.
 
Thanks,
 
Bill, in West Virginia
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Re: Winter wiper blades [billwv] by kurtamaxxxguy
Jan 14, 2009 (7:13 pm)
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Replying to: billwv (Jan 14, 2009 4:23 pm)

Subaru supposedly offers winter wiper blades. I have not used them : the stock blades are proving so so, though the winter package (wiper deicer, mirror deicers, etc) helps somewhat.
 
Also helps to have windshield washer fluid with a low freeze point, and Prestone spray deicer (the yellowish version in a spray bottle was wildly popular when the last big snow hit Portland OR).
 
My only problem was ice buildup near the top of the windshield where the defroster could not quite melt it. That required manual clearing ever so often.
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Re: Winter wiper blades [kurtamaxxxguy] by billwv
Jan 14, 2009 (7:30 pm)
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Jan 14, 2009 7:13 pm)

Thanks for the information. I think I'll try the deicer. Mine is the 2.5x base, so I don't have the heated wiper area--one option I wish I had.
 
I had the defroster full blast, must have been 90 degrees inside, the windshield was still a mess.
 
Has anyone used the winter wipers--comments?
 
Bill

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