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topping off tank by irishrover2
Jan 12, 2009 (11:02 am)
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ateixeira mentioned NOT to top off tank due to fuel vaporrecovery system & charcoal cannister.Can you please explain why not & what the consequences would be,TY
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Re: topping off tank [irishrover2] by bigfrank3
Jan 12, 2009 (3:18 pm)
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Replying to: irishrover2 (Jan 12, 2009 11:02 am)

My experience is that topping off to round out the pennies is ok, but those that are used to squeezing every drop into the tank run the risk of sending fuel through the vent system and into the charcoal canister. This will ruin it since it is designed to handle vapors and not a liquid. This happened to a friend of mine, not on a Subaru, and it cost him more than $100 to replace it. The dealer would not cover it under warranty, saying it happened due to his actions.
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Time.com Article by tinycadon
Jan 13, 2009 (5:00 am)
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Subaru's customers are, the company admits, a little oddball. How else do you explain the fact that Subaru of America was the only car company to increase unit sales last year? Subaru buyers tend to be overeducated; they buy less car than they can afford and hang on to it forever. "They pay cash, and then you never see them again," says Tim Mahoney, Subaru of America's chief marketing officer. At least not for an average 7.3 years, when they return like migrating carbirds to buy another one. Recession or not.
 
You know, of course, that Detroit is on its knees. But Stuttgart, Tokyo and Seoul aren't faring particularly well either. Toyota's U.S. sales were off 16% last year. Yet Subaru was positive to the tune of 491 cars. The company sold 187,699 vehicles last year, led by value-driven models like the Forester SUV and Outback wagon ($19,995 to $22,295) and the muscled-up Impreza WRX ($24,995), a small sedan. (Read TIME's biographies of Detroit's Big Three CEOs.)
 
That's an increase of just 0.3% over 2007. But in a disastrous year for the industry, it boosted Subaru's market share to 1.92%, from 1.2%. In the auto industry, that's a huge increase — and a higher market share than Cadillac, for instance. Subaru did it without giving away the store too. For 2008, the company decided to roll back its list prices and back off the rebates. The sticker price of the 2009 Forester, for instance, was lowered to $19,995, from $21,295. "We had to bring down our incentive costs and stop selling based on the deal," says Tom Doll, executive vice president of the company, which is a division of Japan's Fuji Heavy Industries.
 
Loyalty can help you do that, and Subaru has leveraged its existing customers, who identify more with their cars than perhaps is healthy. "If you stop a Subaru owner at sporting event, ski slope, shopping center, they'll tell you, 'I love this car,' " says Mahoney. And being the opinionated-bumper-sticker type, they are more likely to recommend the brand than even Toyota or Honda owners.
Certainly, it's a perfect era for a car company that is green (it boasts zero-landfill production plants), safety-focused, and can deliver a fair amount of value and performance. In the snow belt regions of the Northeast and intermountain west, Subaru has long had a following because of its all-wheel-drive portfolio.
But Subaru has successfully expanded both its geography and demography, becoming a more national car company and getting a broader customer base.
 
To accomplish both, the company expanded its safety-first image to one that includes better performance and more fun. After all, who wants to motor around in the equivalent of all-wheel-drive bubble wrap? California, a vital auto market, discovered Subaru courtesy of models like the Impreza WRX. All-wheel drive is terrific in the Sierras, but in the Los Angeles Basin, it's more about performance, which the 265-hp, intercooled, turbocharged WRX could address. The muscle models scored well with younger drivers and allowed Subaru to get more exposure for its full line.
 
Having more than weathered the dreadfully bad 2008, Subaru officials aren't planning on lowering sales this year. At Detroit's North American International Auto Show, Subaru unveiled a concept car that will likely evolve into a midsize sedan version of its Legacy. And on a broader note, Doll says that more available credit and Barack Obama's stimulus package should get additional buyers into showrooms. Of course, if all else fails, there are always those folks who bought an Outback 7.3 years ago — and are ready to return.
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Re: Time.com Article [tinycadon] by billwv
Jan 13, 2009 (7:09 am)
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Replying to: tinycadon (Jan 13, 2009 5:00 am)

Interesting read. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
 
Bill
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Re: topping off tank [bigfrank3] by ateixeira
Jan 13, 2009 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: bigfrank3 (Jan 12, 2009 3:18 pm)

That sums it up pretty nicely.
 
When I installed a trailer hitch on my '98 Forester, I actually had to remove and replace the actual canister. It's a black plastic box about the size of an air filter.
 
If any of the tubes leading in or out of that canister are disconnected, you'll even get a check-engine light.
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Re: Time.com Article [tinycadon] by kurtamaxxxguy
Jan 13, 2009 (8:44 am)
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Replying to: tinycadon (Jan 13, 2009 5:00 am)

Was interesting, for sure, and was the full article (apparently a short topic for Time).
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Re: Time.com Article [tinycadon] by volkov
Jan 13, 2009 (10:26 am)
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Replying to: tinycadon (Jan 13, 2009 5:00 am)

Nothing surprising in that at all - that's pretty much what I would have predicted as the profile of a Subie owner. The funny thing is that impressions like that are so often wrong.
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Re: Forester search by DON__FLORIDA
Jan 13, 2009 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Jan 06, 2009 1:24 pm)

I am looking to replace my VW 02 Passat. The Forester is one of many I am looking at. I am concerned about the many posts regarding rattles and cheap interior materal. The Passat has a smoot and quiet ride compared to my Wife;s 09 Matrix. Can I expect a smooth and quiet ride in the Forester? Does anyone think some of the problems in the first year will be corrected in 2010? Based on the question of quality in the 09 I can't feel comfortable buying one this year. I can wait as my Passat still runs OK after77,000 miles. I am also interested in the new Toyota Venza which looks good but again who knows about first year problems. Any advice will be appreciated.
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Re: Forester search [DON__FLORIDA] by ateixeira
Jan 13, 2009 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: DON__FLORIDA (Jan 13, 2009 11:28 am)

Your Veedub has an upscale interior, so you're definitely a price class down in terms of materials.
 
Then again...if you check out a Tiguan, it's not any better than a Forester. That sort of surprised me, but then again I expected to see an interior like your Passat's in the Tiguan - that is definitely not the case.
 
So compared to your Passat, they may seem like a step down, but compared to its peers, this is par for this class. Step up to a Tribeca if you want a soft headliner (Tribeca's is identical to the VW Phaeton) and other soft-touch materials.
 
I will say that the perforated leather on our Limited's seats is very nice, as are the seat heaters. The peach fuzz headliner and plastic sun visors may disappoint you if you are used to the Passat, but so would a Tiguan.
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Re: Sitting inside [pathtomax] by pgb0517
Jan 13, 2009 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: pathtomax (Dec 11, 2008 8:35 am)

My post No. 1973 of July 20, 2008, follows up my search for suitable cupholders. I uploaded photos of a product I have found satisfactory.

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