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3630 messages, Last post on Nov 06, 2009 at 12:19 PM
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Replying to: jopopsy (Dec 23, 2008 3:42 pm)
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Replying to: dameler (Jan 05, 2009 3:45 pm)
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Replying to: xwesx (Jan 05, 2009 1:49 pm) Thanks for this recommendation, xwesx, sounds like a good idea, both for my health and not gassing up the windows too much. I have had other people in the car and they say they have never seen this amount on any car they have been in. It certainly didn't happen on my last new car. And you can see that whatever it is is getting on the plastic parts and even the rear side windows...ie it is going everywhere. I have tried the rag, but it doesn't work as the film that develops is too "greasy" so it just smears it over the window...and actually can make it worse. Visibilty during snow storms/rain etc is compromised cuz of the smearing. I'm looking for the McGeiuars (sp?) that Kurt recommended to see if that works better than windex. Whatever the dealer used to get it off didn't work much better than windex, as when they were done, there were still smears. Subaru recommends Gunk window cleaner, but it is not sold in my area, so that doesn't do me any good. I have an appt scheduled on Wednesday, to have another look at it. this dealer, when he heard about the smells, though something else may be going on that could take some time to fix...So if he finds anything, I'll report back after my visit.
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Replying to: sgloon (Jan 05, 2009 9:06 pm) Usually, outgassing of plasticizers happens only in warm/hot weather when the car sits out in the sun and the dashboard gets very hot. You may have a different issue of coolant seeping into your heater core and then vapors being blown into the passenger compartment by the fan.
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Replying to: samiam_68 (Jan 06, 2009 8:25 am) Regarding the hot weather, I purchased the '08 in Seattle October of 2007, and had it in some weather that was around 80 degrees several days, so it would get hot enough inside while sitting that I would open it up for a few seconds before entering. There was a slight film after three weeks, when I prepared to drive back up to Alaska, so I cleaned the inside of the windows. However, upon arrival in Fairbanks (after only five more days) and having to use the defroster constantly for about 1500 miles, it was hazing over and was far worse than the film that had formed over the previous three weeks being exposed to intermittently warm (hot for me!) weather. As was suspected by the original poster, I think that the HVAC materials are probably adding significantly to the haze - perhaps it is a lube being used on parts in there? |
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My servicing dealer showed me the TSB for the rear fender protectors, and the new plastic strips are way bigger than what shipped on '09 XT. They've ordered those parts so hopefully this will get fixed before the paint in that area is damaged (one current guard strip is already dinged). As for door rattles, they are fixing them again (rattles came back in very cold weather). Turns out the '09 Loaner I have also has door rattles (I can here them buzzing from time to time) - looks like a weak spot in this car. As for annoying overhead creaks from around the light console, the loaner has that too (shows up when defroster is heating windshield or when roof warms up). In my '09, I ended up applying a "creeping" silicon adhesive to the black tang inside the opening where lights mount (just above the mirror, the tang's "secured" by a single gray plastic plug that allows plastic of headliner to creak against roof). The adhesive makes the creep gradual rather than sudden, and so far  , I've not heard any more creaks. A pity there's way too much badly matched plastic in this car. Maybe Subaru will do better in '10. |
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Replying to: sgloon (Dec 30, 2008 8:24 am)
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Replying to: gjksn (Jan 06, 2009 1:50 pm) Regular Windex and most of the canned sprays are useless against emission film. I found that out by the champion of window foggers, a '96 Geo (Chevy) Prism with black interior. That car, parked in hot sun, would fog its windows in a matter of minutes. 
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the Loaner Forester I had during the door rattle fix was built 1/08, so it is roughly the same age as mine (almost 1 year old per build date). It had all the problems mine did (door rattles, roof creaks, rear seat rattles, limited fender protection). It took a little getting used to the natural aspirated engine as, by comparison to the XT, it proved more hair-trigger from standing starts (caught me off guard a couple of times ), but much weaker when trying to pass at 40 - 50 mph. Part of that's from different final drive ratio (much higher in the naturally aspirated .vs. the XT).
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