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Snow, Snow, Snow - 1st Forester Driving Experience by bikerguy3
Dec 21, 2008 (12:28 pm)
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It's been fun reading everyone's posts regarding their snow experiences with their new Foresters...now it's my turn...I live near Portland, and had tickets to the Battle in Seattle [go zags!] in Seattle on Saturday. No way I was gonna miss the game - snowstorm or not - so we made the trek (about 360 miles up & back).
 
We encountered quite a combination of snow (both dry and heavy/wet, with acumulations up to 9"), wind, cold (mid 20's F), freezing rain, etc. As my '09 Forester is my first Subaru, I wasn't sure what to expect. I was NOT disapointed! I don't know if it is the AWD system, the vehicle weight, ground clearance, or other factors (or a combination of?) but what people say is true....the Forester is a snow machine! I had no issues with traction or control or slideouts, etc. The Forester easily outperformed AWD vehicles I've previously owned (XL-7, Sante Fe, Murano).
[FYI - my Forester is manual xmission version].
 
I only managed to get the VDC to kick in once, going thru a section of super deep packed snow left by a snowplow. The sensation was a bit weird (could feel braking and throttling down occurring without my inputs), but seeing the VDC light flashing told me to just let it do it's thing...and we got thru it no problem.
 
The only negative I encountered (which was posted by someone else already) is that there is significant ice buildup on the wiper blades at hiway speeds. I had to run full defrost at high fan speed [and I've previously b**tched about how noisy the fan is!]. Then I had to crack open the rear windows to cool down the overheated interior!
 
So - my recommendation to those evaluating the Forester's capabilities in inclement weather is to consider it a superior vehicle - probably the best in it's class. But definitely get the All Weather Package option (with heated seats and windshield wiper heating).
 
Happy Holidays to All!
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First Snow's by tentoes49
Dec 21, 2008 (3:45 pm)
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Hi all,
I see that everyone is commenting on how their new Forrester is doing in the snow, so I will report what I can. I purchased a 09 premium, with auto trans, and all weather package. This was at the end of July. This is my first Subaru, and my first vehicle with all wheel drive. I live in Omaha, NE. We are a very hilly city but have no major mountains or anything like that.
My first time driving in marginal conditions was two weeks ago when I went to Iowa City to see my new grandson. I had 200 miles of rain/sleet/snow on the way back. My eye was glued to the thermometer in the dash display the whole time back. If it got to 33-32 degrees I was going to slow down. I was also gaging oncoming traffic
to see if it was slowing. Speeds were between 60-70 mph. At no time did I ever feel out of control, or even feel a slip. I was amazed.
This last week we had 1/2' of rain/sleet/ice with about 3" of snow on top of it. I have been having a blast going up hills. Some I even stop half way up them, than start up again just to see if I can.
I am really amazed at this car. Like others I have noticed that the top of the windshield collects ice, and inter fears with the wiper action. I just had remote start put on it and this morning at -1 degree I let it warm up for about 10 minutes. If these Geo lander tires are considered bad, I cant understand why.
Anyway, I am really impressed with the car.
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Re: First Snow's [tentoes49] by kurtamaxxxguy
Dec 21, 2008 (4:06 pm)
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Replying to: tentoes49 (Dec 21, 2008 3:45 pm)

Good that your Geos are working for you. From what I've read Geolanders are good in snow, less so on ice. Since we get a ton of ice in Portland (freeze/thaw predicted for the next few days), I errored on side of caution with Nokians.
 
Today it was sleeting and snowing - 24 to 26 degrees F. Snow was 4 - 6" on side roads, less so on main. White Fang ('09 XT) did fine, including starting up from dead stop into 4 - 6" unplowed snow, on a small hill yet.
 
My workaround for upper windshield ice is to spray a little Prestone "ice melt" on the top of the windshield. That and the defroster seem to keep it at bay.
 
Still we had some real idiots out there today; yahoo pickup trucks trying for 40 mph, etc.
 
Also saw for first time an '09 XT other than mine; a Red one, covered with snow, and on stock Geolanders. It was doing ok in the same snow as mine.
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Re: '09 XT in the Snow - first day. [Panos] by bigfrank3
Dec 21, 2008 (4:12 pm)
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Replying to: Panos (Dec 19, 2008 4:38 pm)

My wife puts more mileage on her Forester than I do, and we have found that on both of the ones she has had you can start to see a difference in the snow performance as you approach 30K miles. It didn't become dangerous or anything, just different.
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Re: '09 XT in the Snow - first day. [bigfrank3] by kurtamaxxxguy
Dec 21, 2008 (4:15 pm)
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Replying to: bigfrank3 (Dec 21, 2008 4:12 pm)

How so different? Could it be wear on the tires?
 
The Nokians I have are guaranteed for 50K miles, but when their tread gets to 6 - 8 mm, it's probably time to replace them.
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Re: '09 XT in the Snow - first day. [camrytimes2] by bigfrank3
Dec 21, 2008 (4:30 pm)
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Replying to: camrytimes2 (Dec 20, 2008 9:16 am)

If there was a real difference I would bet it was the passengers. Extra weight is a big help, especially between the wheels. Load up the car with some of your fat friends and if the car moves at all you will feel unstoppable in the snow.
 
I remember one of my earlier Foresters that I had put a few bags of bird seed in the hatch, right against the rear seat-back. They were 35 pound bags. I noticed a difference for the better in the snow performance almost right away. The vehicle felt more balanced and capable. I actually left them in the back for a while until I needed to use them.
 
I am talking small differences here because the car is pretty well balanced and capable right out of the box, but it was noticeable. Of our 5 Foresters 2 had no LSD, and frankly, I don't see a noticeable difference. I am sure it is better to have than not have, and under the right conditions would be a bonus. I saw much more difference with the weight of the bird seed.
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Re: '09 XT in the Snow - first day. [kurtamaxxxguy] by bigfrank3
Dec 21, 2008 (4:39 pm)
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Dec 21, 2008 4:15 pm)

It was definitely the wear. We get a lot of ice here too, and until then the tracking on curves and such felt very confident. It became less so around 30K. Again, no problems, just a different feel. Both her Foresters returned to the normal feel with replacement of the tires. The tires still had meat on them, but as you, she wanted to err on the side of cautiousness.
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Diminished Value by pgb0517
Dec 21, 2008 (4:39 pm)
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My '09 Forester LL Bean was rear-ended when it was less than six months old and had less than 6K on the odometer; not our fault, the other party was fully insured, and over $6,000 in repairs are complete. Now I want to pursue a diminished value claim. The posts I've found are way out of date, and I believe that DV claims have gotten easier in the last few years. The other insurer is offering $1,100, which I believe is way too low. Our dealer says about $3,000, but I understand dealers are not considered impartial. Does anyone have experience with any of the appraisers you can find online, such as Appraisal Group of America (autoloss.com)?
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Re: Snow, Snow, Snow - 1st Forester Driving Experience [bikerguy3] by bigfrank3
Dec 21, 2008 (4:51 pm)
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Replying to: bikerguy3 (Dec 21, 2008 12:28 pm)

FWIW my first Forester was an "L" model, equivalent to the "X" today, and it was a 5-speed. Of the 5 we have owned I still feel that one was the best overall in handling, and especially in the snow. I like the 50/50 split front to rear and think that helps with the overall balance. That one had no LSD either.
 
I have not been dissatisfied with any of the ones we have had with the auto, and in fact moved to my current 06 Premium for the power seat, moonroof, and the AWP which was standard then. I moved away from the 5-speed because I have size 13W feet, and I kept hitting the gas and the brake at the same time. I am 6'3" and I find the power seat gives a little more leg room.

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