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Re: '09 XT in the Snow - first day. [kurtamaxxxguy] by volkov
Dec 15, 2008 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Dec 15, 2008 11:14 am)

I noticed that with the WRX when I first got it in 04. Turbos of course run hotter and the turbo increases temps as it compresses the air, but in addition, there is basically a run of a couple of feet of exhaust piping sitting in the engine bay pumping out heat that a NA engine doesn't have.
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Re: '09 XT in the Snow - first day. [volkov] by kurtamaxxxguy
Dec 15, 2008 (12:12 pm)
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Replying to: volkov (Dec 15, 2008 11:49 am)

Good to know.
Another reason why I change oil frequently and use a proven additive (not that STP stuff) to reduce friction and oxidation. Coking turbos are not for me !!
 
FYI my servicing dealer told me that at 7000 miles, switching to Synthetic would cause more oil to be burned. Not sure if that would foul the plugs or not, so for now it's high grade conventional and the additive.
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Re: '09 XT in the Snow - first day. [kurtamaxxxguy] by sgloon
Dec 15, 2008 (1:47 pm)
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Dec 14, 2008 5:27 pm)

Thanks for a comprehensive review, Kurt!
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More driving on icy roads by kurtamaxxxguy
Dec 15, 2008 (7:32 pm)
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For those jumping in here:
 
Continued adventures on Oregon Roads in winter with '09 XT.
Nearly all the roads were a sheet of ice covered by windblown snow in places.
Temperature was 32 - 24 degrees. Tires were Nokian WRG2.
  
If the ice was wet, I would loose traction on one or more wheels momentarily, but the Forester XT never got stuck, including on a 10 - 15 degree hill with that wet ice.
I got up to around 5 - 10 mph and was still able to stop reasonably well if I was gentle. Jack rabbit starts or stops would definitely break the wheels loose.
This is the worst case I can think of.
  
If ice was typical (shiny but no visible water) or covered with snow, the traction was much better. There the XT started and stopped without trouble provided I was gentle with throttle and brakes.
 
The Prestone anti-ice spray seems to be helping keep slush from freezing in the wheelwells.
 
Tomorrow come the big hills due a trip I have to make.
 
How are others fairing? The winter tire forum commented on the Michelin X-ice tires and found them wanting.
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Question regarding the Turbo by bpraxis
Dec 15, 2008 (8:01 pm)
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Happy Holiday's everyone and I hope that you are having fun with your Subaru.
 
  Do you all feel that for 2010 Subaru will increase the horsepower on the Forrester Turbo to match the WRX which moved to over 260 horsepower for 2009?
 
  Cheers
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I'm not insider but... by kurtamaxxxguy
Dec 16, 2008 (4:47 am)
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Given Forester is big seller now, there __might__ be enough sales to justify bringing back the 5S MT XT version all the enthusiasts complained about Subaru dropping.
 
If Subaru also added the power boost to that model, that would further goose sales.
 
Then again, the Forester's not a track car. Subaru would have a fair bit of suspension revision to do, including lowering heigth.
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'09 XT in the Snow - third day by kurtamaxxxguy
Dec 16, 2008 (8:45 pm)
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This time came the big hills around Portland OR. We have several subdivisions built on Bull Mountain that have numerous winding, hilly streets.
Most of those streets were covered with snow-swept ice, occasionally sprinkled with a few cinders. Some hills approach 20 - 25 degrees.
 
One hill's lack of traction had sent a Jetta and a small MiniVan down their slopes. A number of FWD cars were spinning wheels as they tried to get going.
 
The XT with Nokians, in all but one case, just went up and down the hills. As before, speeds had to be kept low, but the XT stopped and restarted on any hill, and stopped when going down the same hills. The worst case was when the ice was wet - the ABS definitely kicked in for those braking situations. Accelerating, I did not see any VDC/TC warning lights but felt some of the wheels alternating traction. There was little hesitation and no violent spinning of wheels.
 
The only time XT lost it was doing a fairly sharp right hand turn at about 5-10 mph over a small hill which was covered with wet ice. At the hill apex XT slid for 1 - 2 seconds before it recovered. My guess is the momentary loss of weight on the tires allowed them to skid - once the vehicle got over the bump, traction came back.
 
With the WRG2's and careful driving, the XT seems up to the challange of most Oregon winter roads.
How are folks with Geolanders doing in similar situations?
 
There are at least two more massive storms heading for us this week, so the fun is just beginning!
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My XT and Snow by capitano
Dec 17, 2008 (6:50 am)
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We got our first major snow here in the Kansas City area this week. I noticed the rear end sliding out around some turns, particularly when the front end was on the plowed road and the rear was going through a small berm created by the plow. In these slides, the VDC light never came on.
 
I did get the light to come on once this morning going over a railroad crossing. I felt some wheelspin and the light came on briefly.
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Re: My XT and Snow [capitano] by Mplsman
Dec 17, 2008 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: capitano (Dec 17, 2008 6:50 am)

We've got snow, ice, and very low temps here in MN last few days. Brought my new X Premium home last night and VDC coming on regularly (granted I may have been a little enthusiastic with my new toy!). Notice a lot of drifting with any acceleration into a turn. Again, very slick conditions yesterday and today. While Forester still handled terrifically, I've heard the stock Geolanders aren't the best for these conditions.
 
Also, noticed ABS kicks in a lot quicker and more frequently than on my old Toyota Sienna.
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Re: My XT and Snow [Mplsman] by xwesx
Dec 17, 2008 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: Mplsman (Dec 17, 2008 7:06 am)

Yes, with ABS and the spin, the culprit is most likely your tires.

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