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#1884 of 3748 Re: extended warranties [pgb0517]
Jul 12, 2008 (11:00 am)
Thank you for the clarifications. I purchased the 2009 Forester based on reliability and safety. My daughter's 02 Forester has not had any problems at all and she has over 100,000 miles on it.
I like your Subaru bucks idea. I will look into getting a card.
We made a bad choice with the last car we purchased. It was an 01 Volvo Cross Country. Consumers Reports rates it as a car to avoid for a used car. We paid out $6000 total for maintenance and other issues since 2003 when we bought it as a certified pre-owned vehicle. The extended warranty didn't cover a lot of it but did pay out $2000 more so the total spent was $8000. None of those repairs were major items.
We are hoping that we will not experience that with Subaru. Granted, Volvo is more expensive to repair, for example a timing belt is $750.
#1885 of 3748 Some issues my dealer told me about wrt '09
Jul 12, 2008 (11:06 am)
I asked my dealer about these and was told they exist on other '09 Foresters:
1. Passenger side under dash cover is not well secured (if you put hand on it, you can lift it up and down (pivoted from the front)).
2. Rear reclining seats rattle when going over bumps (locking mechanism is not very secure).
Dealer's waiting for answers from Subaru, and admitted first year Subies need tweaks just like any other first year car.
Still, compared to the GM first year's I've driven, the Subie doesn't have anywhere as many glitches.
#1886 of 3748 Forester not fun?
Jul 13, 2008 (5:24 am)
I read on the NY Times' website that the 2009 Forester has a more comfortable ride than previous versions, but that it has lost the fun factor. they blame it on a softer suspension mostly. Can any 2009 owners comment on the accuracy of this claim? I was all excited about the 2009, I think it looks great, and the Forester has head room for me, but I would definitely want the fun factor if I get one.
#1887 of 3748 Re: Forester not fun? [nathans]
Jul 13, 2008 (7:36 am)
Well I've currently got a '09 Forester X automatic sitting in my driveway for the weekend. It's a dealer loaner as my WRX is awaiting brake pads.
We've also got an '01 Forester S automatic, which is my wife's car. I've also driven a '09 Forester turbo a couple of months ago.
The new Forester is better in every way compared to my wife's '01 model. It's not even close. As to fun? Well, I'm used to driving a WRX, so to me neither Forester (the '01 or '09) are what I consider "fun" to drive. Pleasant? Yes, very pleasant. More fun than other vehicles in this class? Most definitely! Would I consider a new Forester to replace the old one? Absolutely!
#1888 of 3748 Re: Forester not fun? [nathans]
Jul 13, 2008 (10:01 am)
My previous auto was a mazda mx6, with a 2.5 liter, 177 hp V6. Relatively tight suspension, manual transmission, and low profile made the car really fun to drive. Not getting the same feeling from my Limited (in many ways) Forester, but it is fun... It is a really pleasant ride, and just feels ready to transport me anywhere. Honestly, I think I'm getting to love the car, I don't miss the MX6 much anymore, and I'm getting less pangs of regret about not buying the XT. I'm getting better fuel economy than my small mazda (which required premium fuel).
I've really had to change the way I drive to really enjoy this car. Cruise slightly off the accelerator, nice and easy, no racing, no more trying to beat people off the line. It's just not really an option in this car, unless you're racing a Yugo . But once rolling you can get to the desired speed smoothly and, yeah, I guess "pleasantly"
#1889 of 3748 Re: Forester not fun? [nathans]
Jul 13, 2008 (3:41 pm)
If you want "fun" '09 Forester, get the XT. It does use more gas than the X series, but XT's suspension is a bit stiffer and its turbo makes the car far more responsive.
#1890 of 3748 Looks like Motor Trend likes the '09 XT .vs Tiguan
Jul 13, 2008 (5:40 pm)
In the July issue, Compared to the '09 Mazda Cx-7 and Tiguan Sel 4-motion, the '09 XT performed better and still beat the others in overall mileage (despite its "obselete" 4-speed auto trans). The tests revealed the shorter Tiguan's turning circle was 5 feet more than the XT's.
Where the XT fell down was interior quality; MT described the XT as a parts bin approach .vs. the Tiguan's superior quality.
MT said if the Tiguan were $5 K cheaper (at XT price point), they would have probably rated it first.
However, what MT did not say (but another review did) is the Tiguan's AWD is the same as the current R32's, which is to say it's FWD unless it detects loss of traction, at which point it switches to AWD.
#1891 of 3748 Re: Looks like Motor Trend likes the '09 XT .vs Tiguan [kurtamaxxxguy]
Jul 13, 2008 (5:52 pm)
Where the XT fell down was interior quality; MT described the MT described the XT as a parts bin approach.
I call it smart marketing. The fact that the Impreza and the Forester share the same dash and a number of other interior parts I think is great—and very smart on Subaru's part. Why design different parts for two different vehicles if you don't have to. That's just wasted money—money that could be put to better use in terms of developing stuff that's truly important and/or will the make the vehicles better.
#1892 of 3748 Re: Looks like Motor Trend likes the '09 XT .vs Tiguan [rsholland]
Jul 13, 2008 (6:04 pm)
My only complaint about the '09 XT plastics is they scratch easily (be darn sure you don't put any sharp objects on the plastic cover with the transmission indicators, as that paint has no protective coating ! )
#1893 of 3748 Re: Forester not fun? [nathans]
Jul 13, 2008 (6:05 pm)
If ya wanna have fun at a movie, don't take the reviews too seriously. Car reviews, like movie reviews, are helpful but can be gosh-awful pretentious. All reviewers have their pet peeves.
To answer your question, I think my boring, soft-suspension non-turbo '09 Bean is fun, fun, fun. We really enjoy taking it through the winding, hilly roads around Austin. Maybe it's because this is our first all-wheel-drive, not to mention our first car with a moonroof, so we are comparing it to more staid vehicles, but still, we are really happy with our choice. There's more to fun than suspensions and turbos.
I'd say take a good, long test drive or three in both the X and XT series and make your decision, and don't let a reviewer define fun for you or scare you off a great car.