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09 Forester auto X (base) roof rack help plz. by hatescars
Jul 04, 2008 (12:12 pm)
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Hi all,
 
Questions/cautionary tale. Taylor made for you Mike.
 
1st 1000 miles, average 24-25 in mixed driving and 30-31 65mph on HWY. Very happy.
 
Questions: X comes with no rack or raised rack rails. At purchase I thought, "no biggie, I'll just buy new attachments for my Yakima rack". I've since found out Yakima only makes attachments for raised roof rails that come with the higher priced '09 Foresters.
 
I want a system that allows for versitality...canoe, bikes, cartop cargo. Something easy on/off.
 
I've also read elsewhere online that the raised rails from Subaru won't mount on the X. Any truth to this conspiracy? I figured that might be my quickest fix...pony up for Subaru raised rails and then buy Yakima or Thule stuff.
 
I test drove an '09X that had the two fixed round aluminum tube cross bars on the roof and I didn't like it. It whistled LOUDLY and created lots of noise hwy speed (65-75). I would guess that the Yakima/Thule stuff wouldn't work off those tubes either. They would work for the canoe though.
 
Any X (base) Forester owners figure out what to do about their roof rack needs?
 
Also I need a recommendation for aftermarket tow package. Subi charges something like $400 for it.
 
Moral of the story: drop the extra 2k or whatever for the next level of vehicle and enjoy the butt warmers.
 
Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer my questions!
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Re: First MPGs [norcalmike1] by camrytimes2
Jul 04, 2008 (12:35 pm)
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Replying to: norcalmike1 (Jul 04, 2008 11:24 am)

The rear of my '09 Forester with 4,700 miles on it has hopped a few times over broken pavement. I've read reports of others experiencing the same issue. It has not happened on the highway and is a rare occurance that would not dissuade me from buying an '09. I've also crossed highway expansion joints that were on a bias and the front end provided feedback that was unlike anything that I had experienced with my many front wheel drive automobiles. I attribute the phenomenon to sensing the operation of a technologically very different [to me] vehicle and no longer notice it. My '09 has been fine, and there are many features that are stellar. The fit and finish, as well as the handling are good and remind me of the Japanese assembled Hondas that I owned before Honda ownership became a pseudo-cult in the late '80 and '90s. The only issue that I would re-think is that the ride and handling are great on well-maintained pavement, but not so wonderful on broken and neglected pavement. I drive into and out of Boston on horrendously broken and neglected pavement and the ride height and suspension provide a bouncing schoolbus experience during my commutes. Perhaps a lower, softer riding vehicle would have been a better fit for my commute, but I do not have buyer's remorse. On the other hand, I have obviously driven the car many a mile and it has been a joy to drive on appropriately maintained roads and fun to drive on steep, rutted dirt roads in Vermont.
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Re: First MPGs [camrytimes2] by pgb0517
Jul 04, 2008 (12:43 pm)
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Replying to: camrytimes2 (Jul 04, 2008 12:35 pm)

Just strictly out of curiosity -- since I live in a land of well-paved roads -- how does the Forester behave differently on "broken and neglected pavement" as opposed to "steep, rutted dirt roads"?
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Re: First MPGs [sgloon] by rjweiss
Jul 04, 2008 (1:28 pm)
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Replying to: sgloon (Jul 03, 2008 10:18 pm)

While on the gas mileage thread I thought you might like to know that if you put on a carrier box up top on the cross rails move the box far back to the rear. I get a few miles per gallon better when it's that way, very surprised at the difference from keeping it towards the front.
 
At least thats the way my 03 Forester reacts.
 
Ron W.
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Re: First MPGs [pgb0517] by camrytimes2
Jul 04, 2008 (1:48 pm)
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Replying to: pgb0517 (Jul 04, 2008 12:43 pm)

Not sure that the Forester behaves differently vs. different nature of road conditions and speeds:
 
The Forester roughly dips, hops, bounces, sharply pivots laterally, squeeks and rattles while being driven at typical road speeds (30 to 40 MPH) over potholes, sunken and raised patches, sunken and raised sewer covers, etc. I travel on busy urban streets, some of which show no visible signs of original pavement. The entire streets are patchwork. Creeping along creates risks associated with the ire of other drivers.
 
On "steep, rutted dirt roads", the vehicle is generally driven much more slowly and the ruts are continuous and caused by wear and tear of previous vehicles. Any depressions in the road are larger than potholes and are more 'bowl' like. Over these types of conditions, the ride height and AWD are beneficial and the slower speeds result in less rigorous tossing and bouncing. In wet and muddy conditions over steep dirt roads in mountainous terrain, I have experienced no uncontrolled wheel spin.
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Re: 09 Forester auto X (base) roof rack help plz. [hatescars] by norcalmike1
Jul 04, 2008 (2:58 pm)
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Replying to: hatescars (Jul 04, 2008 12:12 pm)

Sorry if I was off topic on the ride/suspension question.
 
Trailer hitch: Go to etrailer.com and look up hitches for the 09 Forester. Curt makes a great product; powder coated, lifetime warranty,
hitch and receiver hitch for $129.00. Free shipping on any order over $150.00.
 
Thanks for all the replies about the suspension. When gas shot up I sold my Ridgeline and bought a Prius. Only time I like the Prius is when I drive past a gas station. Rest of the time it's a pain. Ridgeline is rock solid and unflappable on uneven pavement. You pay for that luxury ride at the gas pump. I was hoping to find something between a Ridgeline and a Prius thinking the Forester might just do it.
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Re: First MPGs [camrytimes2] by kurtamaxxxguy
Jul 04, 2008 (3:38 pm)
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Replying to: camrytimes2 (Jul 04, 2008 12:35 pm)

Yes, I have seen my '09 XT hop over speed bumps (the rear end bounces up and the suspension extends with a whack), but only if I take them too fast. I also had one test drive '09 XT "dance" when climbing a heavilly potholed hill (an '08 Outback driven on same road cared less).
There have been a few reviews commenting on the lack of damping in the '09 Forester rear suspension.
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Re: 09 Forester auto X (base) roof rack help plz. [hatescars] by alphie1
Jul 04, 2008 (5:57 pm)
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Replying to: hatescars (Jul 04, 2008 12:12 pm)

I hope to have resolved this issue with my 09 base Forester. Have Subaru accessory rack which is supposed to fit the four mounting spots on roof. Dealer assured me it would be more than adequate to car-top a 70 pound canoe.
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Re: 09 Forester auto X (base) roof rack help plz. [alphie1] by sgloon
Jul 04, 2008 (11:41 pm)
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Replying to: alphie1 (Jul 04, 2008 5:57 pm)

I have the Thule "crossroads", which attach to the Subaru rails. It works fine and fits all my old Thule accessories. REI says there is a similar attachment for Yakima.
Re: wind noise. I had no wind noise whatso ever when there was something on the crossbars. However, without something on the bars, and going fast, there was some wind noise. I just took 'em off and threw in back.
 
Re: accessory rack. Thule notes on their website that their equipment is rated for higher weight limit than the Subaru stuff. The Thule rep who I called and spoke to said the same thing, noting specific limits of the various equipment.
 
The Thule bars readily handle the canoes (I have a few). I also have two different width bars depending upon what I will be carrying, and how many canoes at a time.
 
When looking for cars that could handle canoes, I found a place called the Rack Attack which mount roof racks on your vehicle. They will do whatever they need to to put on a reliable system, sometimes mixing purchased equipment and that which they make themselves. Perhaps there is something near you like this company.
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Re: First MPGs [norcalmike1] by sgloon
Jul 05, 2008 (6:35 am)
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Replying to: norcalmike1 (Jul 04, 2008 11:24 am)

Mike, in answer to your questions:
 
Warranty Issues:
I've only had it 2 weeks, so this is all I have found so far.
1. The rear seat recline button fell out. (My local dealer has ordered another...hopefully that will be the fix. I did not push this button before buying, only the one on the other side...lesson learned, Push every button.
2. Dash rattle, passenger side - didn't hear it until I got it on the dirt roads. A few others have noted this, so I'm hoping it is a quick fix.
 
Hops: Noticed when test driving on big city hiway. There were not cracks in this hiway but "swells". Haven't felt it since...not sure if it would be a problem???
 
Regrets: The only real regret I have is that Subaru made this vehicle so dang tall. I have a real hard time tying things on top...and with some items getting them up there. However, I couldn't find anything else that fit all my needs, so I would still buy it. Just ask Subaru to lower it a bit. There were going to be trade-offs in any car I bought. None of them had everything I wanted.

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