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Re: 17.4 mpg so far over first 200 miles [rsholland] by ateixeira
May 19, 2008 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: rsholland (May 19, 2008 6:41 am)

Yeah, I may trade up eventually but I'm waiting for prices on 2006s to drop a tad.
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Re: 17.4 mpg so far over first 200 miles [redherring1] by dcm61
May 19, 2008 (8:20 am)
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Replying to: redherring1 (May 19, 2008 5:58 am)

1) would it be too much to ask for the driver's window to be one touch auto up also?
 
They had it in the '80s. My '89 GL-10 Full Time 4WD Turbo Touring Wagon had it.
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Re: 17.4 mpg so far over first 200 miles [dcm61] by ateixeira
May 19, 2008 (9:17 am)
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Replying to: dcm61 (May 19, 2008 8:20 am)

The SVX had a whole bunch of things that even today are missing from the Tribeca.
 
In the early 90s most of the Japanese brands went through a round of cost cutting and removed a lot of these features.
 
Even now, when they add them back, more often than not they remove something else.
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Re: 17.4 mpg so far over first 200 miles [ateixeira] by redherring1
May 19, 2008 (2:00 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 19, 2008 6:31 am)

No HIDs, please, think of all the Miata drivers out there that will be at eye level with those and be blinded when coming right at you.
 
What would they be doing in the wrong lane in the first place?
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Re: 17.4 mpg so far over first 200 miles [redherring1] by ateixeira
May 20, 2008 (3:16 am)
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Replying to: redherring1 (May 19, 2008 2:00 pm)

I'm the one in the wrong lane because I can't see!
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Similarities to ATTESA by ateixeira
May 20, 2008 (3:31 am)
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Interestingly, I was reading a C&D article about ATTESA, and they say it directs power via an electronically controlled clutch pack.
  
Nissan even uses the name "Vehicle Dynamics Control" for their brake-based traction and stability control system. And it has an On and Off switch.
  
Electronically controlled clutch pack with VDC that you can turn on and off. Cool.
  
Where have I heard that before?
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Re: Longtime Forester owner weighing in [p0926] by bankerdanny
May 20, 2008 (11:17 am)
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Replying to: p0926 (Jan 23, 2008 4:11 pm)

Frank, I understand your frustration. I am just as frustrated that the vast majority of vehicles sold in this country come with automatics while the vast majority of auto reviews are of manuals.
 
The reviewers all justify this by saying we are an "enthusiast" site/magazine and "real drivers" prefer manuals. I have owned over 20 cars. 13 of the first 15 were manuals including an MGB GT, a Mustang 5.0, and a Sentra SE-R. I have driven manual 911's, a 930 Turbo and a 635 CSi. I understand the appeal.
 
But in day-to-day urban driving, which is the reality for millions of car buyers, even the best manual is a pain in the ass. Throw in a spouse who can't drive stick and a manual transmission is not an option for most people. Sure, test the Ferrari, the Mustang GT, the Miata, or the Evo with a manual. But give me the auto on the Camry, the Forester, and the Fit, because that's what most buyers of these vehicles will choose. Stop choosing your review vehicle specs based on the narrow view of the "driver's car" and instead test the one that your readers are most likely to actually buy. Why is this so unreasonable? Why should my only source for info on automatic equiped cars be Consumer Reports?
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Re: Longtime Forester owner weighing in [bankerdanny] by ateixeira
May 20, 2008 (12:04 pm)
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Replying to: bankerdanny (May 20, 2008 11:17 am)

Keep in mind the Forester XT targers enthusiast buyers.
 
It's not nearly as mainstream as the regular Forester.
 
Oddly, Subaru offers the manual on the X, and not the XT, probably for cost purposes, rather than demographics.
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Re: Longtime Forester owner weighing in [bankerdanny] by volkov
May 20, 2008 (12:47 pm)
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Replying to: bankerdanny (May 20, 2008 11:17 am)

Even the old argument for gas mileage is moot now given most new gen autos get better gas mileage.
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Re: Longtime Forester owner weighing in [ateixeira] by kurtamaxxxguy
May 20, 2008 (1:10 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 20, 2008 12:04 pm)

If XT is intended for enthusiasts, who understandably want to row their own gears, then Subaru's decision to kill the 5-speed Forester XT makes little sense.
   
Would it really cost them __that__ much money to keep it in the sales pipeline?
 
Then again, perhaps in 2010 (which seems to be Subaru's big changeover year), an STI version of the Forester made __just__ for enthusiasts could be offered, with Recardo seats, STI running gear, lightest possible weight, etc. .

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