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Used vs. New by ateixeira
May 14, 2008 (7:49 am)
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I guess there are pros and cons to both, for instance I got lucky with my 93 Miata and it's been fine. But you might also end up with a problematic model someone else got rid of for that reason specifically.
 
Certified, models still under warranty, and reliable brands help offset those concerns.
 
Tough call.
 
As for the RX, I wouldn't get that simply because they just don't handle all that well. I've driven several and really don't like them at all, actually, but that's just me. I'd choose my minivan over an RX350, seriously.
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Went with the Forester by skeleton
May 14, 2008 (10:28 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 14, 2008 7:49 am)

I've started lurking on the Crossover CUV Comparison discussion to see what people are saying. This discussion of New vs. Used, RX vs. Forester is really way to subjective as it all depends on numerous factors beyond the features and capabilities of the product.
 
Despite not having considered every permutation, I went ahead and purchased a 2009 Forester. Spark Silver, 5MT, Premium package with PZEV (New York). We love the feeling of airy openness with the great visibility and large moonroof. It's also hoot to drive. Still breaking it in so haven't pushed it yet.
 
Things I like:
- Visibility and feeling of openness
- Overall driving feel
- Little body roll around corners
- Smooth ride without feeling mushy
- Great turning radius
- Safety
- Fuel Economy (hit 31.5 MPG on my way to the cottage)
- Hill Assist - surprised how much I like this
- Ground clearance
- Lots of little things: nice, easy to clean "tray" where the front wipers are - made it easy to clean some debris that fell onto car; easy to clean wheels; spring loaded fold down rear seats - just lift the button and they come down; reclining rear seats with lots of room - you don't feel like a second class citizen when you're in the back seat.
 
Thinks I don't like:
- dinky horn
- vanity mirrors don't have lights
- no bluetooth
- stereo is only acceptable
 
The Forester lets you see, feel and hear the driving experience in very positive ways. Many SUVs want to reduce this as much as possible: "Life is something to be insulated from so that you don't have to experience it." I guess if you live in a rough neighbourhood with undesirable sights, I would want this too. Fortunately, I live in a beautiful neighbourhood and I own a cottage in the wilderness. The Forester is perfect for this lifestyle.
 
I'm sure I'll appreciate it even more during the first major snowstorm or, heaven forbid, I rely on the VDC to prevent a major accident. ...btw, shouldn't "accident avoidance ability" be factored into overall safety measurements somehow?
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Re: Went with the Forester [skeleton] by ateixeira
May 14, 2008 (11:50 am)
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Replying to: skeleton (May 14, 2008 10:28 am)

Congrats, that's sweet! PZEV too, same here.
 
hit 31.5 MPG on my way to the cottage
 
wOOt!
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Re: Went with the Forester [skeleton] by volkov
May 14, 2008 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: skeleton (May 14, 2008 10:28 am)

IIHS does require electronic stability control to get the "top safety pick" designation now.
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Re: 2009 Forester Price drop [cshopper] by pdx81
May 14, 2008 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: cshopper (May 14, 2008 5:57 am)

I just paid $23,977 for my automatic Forester with the Premium package plus All-Weather. That was $100 over invoice. Did I get taken?
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Re: 2009 Forester Price drop [pdx81] by kurtamaxxxguy
May 14, 2008 (3:02 pm)
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Replying to: pdx81 (May 14, 2008 2:20 pm)

If you got what you wanted, it sounds like you did fine. This is a brand new, well reviewed car and I can't imagine anyone doing fire sales on it.
 
I was well under MSRP but no way near Invoice. Then again, I asked for and got a Peral White Turbo XT Limited, of which there was a grand total of _1_ within a 150 mile radius, and which my dealer had to trade for to get.
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Re: 2009 Forester Price drop [pdx81] by phdhusky
May 14, 2008 (3:06 pm)
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Replying to: pdx81 (May 14, 2008 2:20 pm)

depending on where you bought it, i would say you could have done way better.
 
My best quote for AT Premium with floor mats, splash gaurds, rear bumper cover was 22, 300. Which was about 24,400 OTD.
 
I got AT Premium with wheel arch moldings, splash gaurds, sport grill, spoiler, wheel locks, read bumper cover for 23,200. I live in CT.
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Accident Avoidance Ability by skeleton
May 14, 2008 (3:26 pm)
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Replying to: volkov (May 14, 2008 12:08 pm)

Of course there are other factors that will help you avoid an accident such as braking distance. I would imagine, also, that all electronic stability control systems are not created equal just as AWD systems are not equal. All of these can potentially play a role in improving overall safety.
 
On a side note, people look at Smart Cars and say they are too small to be safe. I jokingly say they are very safe because they are too small to get in an accident. "I've tried to hit one of those suckers and I keep missing..they're too small a target."
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Re: Went with the Forester [skeleton] by tinycadon
May 14, 2008 (5:55 pm)
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Replying to: skeleton (May 14, 2008 10:28 am)

Hey skeleton, you bought the same exact model I'm very interested in, a MT 2.5x premium, congrats, hopefully you can give me some insight before I get the itch to go buy one without fully researching it. One of the things I don't like is high rpm's at hwy speeds, I had a civic and it was really annoying. Could you tell me what your rpm's are at 65-75 mph. Also, I know that the gas tank is 16.9 gallons, but how much is actually "useable?" By that I mean, when you get to E, how many gallons do you get when you fill it back up? I know in my Xterra I have a 21 gallon tank, but when I fill it up when I get to E I only get 16.5 gallons, which means almost 5 gallons in that tank is truly unusable greatly reducing my range, which has really upset me since that was a HUGE reason I bought it, so I wouldn't have to stop and fill up on my frequent 400 mile trips. Thanks for your help.
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Re: 2009 Forester Price drop [pdx81] by pgb0517
May 14, 2008 (6:18 pm)
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Replying to: pdx81 (May 14, 2008 2:20 pm)

"Did I get taken?" -- I don't think so. Some folks are getting under invoice and some aren't. If you are in a market that is not thick with Subaru dealers; if you were picky about exactly what you wanted and it was in short supply; if you didn't get taken on your trade-in; if you got good financing; if you like the dealership and more or less enjoyed the experience -- be glad you got a good deal. As explained in recent posts either here or in the buying experiences forum, many things affect how low a dealer is willing to go even from one day to the next. I paid $200 over invoice and consider that, given my market and other factors, I am very satisfied with the deal. Don't let buyer's remorse eat you up. Life is not about bragging rights over car deals.

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