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Re: Just test drove... [ateixeira] by redrose1
May 08, 2008 (12:06 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 08, 2008 7:38 am)

First and foremost, we want a safe vehicle with good visibility and AWD for our snowy winters. If we could get all that and some toys, it would be nice. The Forester with some extras would be great, but it's not available eg.Nav,dual climate controls. That's why we are considering the RDX. However, safety is our first priority. Your thoughts, please?!
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Re: Just test drove... [redrose1] by redherring1
May 08, 2008 (12:11 pm)
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Replying to: redrose1 (May 08, 2008 7:01 am)

Hi redrose1--Go back a few pages to post #1096 to see my detailed take on exactly this. To summarize, I'm a long time multiple Acura owner, but was very disappointed in the space and ride of the RDX--it's a real kidney-beater on anything but perfect roads. The passenger compartment of the Forester is much roomier, the ride is better, the power to weight ratio is better, it gets better gas mileage, and it has significantly more ground clearance (almost 3 inches) which may be important in the snow.
 
The RDX is not selling particularly well right now so you can get a very good deal on it, so there's not a lot of real world difference betweeen the cost of a base (i.e., everything but nav) RDX vs. a loaded XT Limited. I had the RDX on an all-day test drive so was able to drive it on all kinds of roads--I would suggest you do the same before you decide.
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Re: 2008 vs 2009 Forester - Help! [slaterac] by redherring1
May 08, 2008 (12:19 pm)
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Replying to: slaterac (May 08, 2008 11:12 am)

1) You can't get both satellite radio and the iPod interface
 
2) The interface is more than just a jack--that you can get in the upmarket models (XT, Bean/Limited)--the interface allows you to operate the iPod from the steering wheel controls, including song change, etc., and turns the iPod on and off with the ignition.
 
The upmarket models have a different supplier for the audio system than the X and Prem. Interface for the upmarkets should be available at a later date.
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does this mutha have seats for 7? by gleen6191
May 08, 2008 (12:27 pm)
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Re: does this mutha have seats for 7? [gleen6191] by p0926
May 08, 2008 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: gleen6191 (May 08, 2008 12:27 pm)

If by "mutha" you are referring to the 2009 Subaru Forester, then the answer is no
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Re: does this mutha have seats for 7? [gleen6191] by kurtamaxxxguy
May 08, 2008 (12:45 pm)
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Replying to: gleen6191 (May 08, 2008 12:27 pm)

Nope. Forester seats 5.
If you want Subaru, Tribeca seats 7, but snugly.
RAV4 is competitor to Forester and does seat 7.
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a note on more gears in the trans by kurtamaxxxguy
May 08, 2008 (1:30 pm)
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autoblog.com had this info on the new 6-speed trans for the Ford Escape:
 
"The new 6F35 is a completely new six-speed automatic that will have a wider total ratio spread than the four speed it is replacing. The top gear ratio will be approximately the same as the four-speed, but the lower gears will be shorter helping off-the-line acceleration. The final drive ratio will be a little taller (numerically lower), which will help reduce the engine speed when cruising on the highway. Even with the larger first to sixth spread, the overall gap between each ratio will be smaller resulting in less engine speed drop during shifts and a quieter, smoother overall driving experience. The 6F35 uses a total of three planetary gear sets and five clutches to generate the six forward and one reverse gear.
 
Ford is claiming that the new transmission contributes to a 4-6% improvement in fuel efficiency depending on with which vehicle and engine it's paired."
 
Note:
4 - 6 % fuel efficiency improvement is all they claim for such a major component change. Worthwhile, but how much more will this new trans cost .vs. the older model (it's more complex so it will probably justify a price increase) ? And how responsive will this new trans be (some 5spdAT and 6spdAT's are very sluggish - Motor Trend complained the CR-V's 5 speedAT acted like it only had 4 speeds!).
 
The point:
More gears are not the only answer to improving Mileage or performance.
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Re: Just test drove... [samiam_68] by paisan
May 08, 2008 (3:25 pm)
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Replying to: samiam_68 (May 08, 2008 9:58 am)

If you take long road trips, the Acura is a better choice - far more comfortable. You have a working dual climate control vs. Forester's out-of-control system,
 
A) Do you have an 09 Forester with out of control HVAC?
B) Don't say all of them are out of control because I have both an SVX and an 05 LGT both with auto-climate control and both work flawlessly even in 100+ NYC Humid Summers in bumper to bumper traffic.
 
-mike
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A/C notes by kurtamaxxxguy
May 08, 2008 (3:42 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (May 08, 2008 3:25 pm)

The only quirk I've seen in the auto climate control is that its lowest temperature setting may try to warm you up unexpectedly.
However, it's very easy to revert to manual operation by setting the controls to other than "Auto" positions.
 
One oddity I did find is the Evaporator line for the AC, apparently uninsulated, runs right across the back of the engine bay, just out from under the intercooler fins, but not far from the turbo and main exhaust pipe. I don't know if turbo heat is a problem for that or not, nor if that evaporator line can be safely insulated with the usual foam you use for hot water lines.
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Re: 2008 vs 2009 Forester - Help! [sgloon] by bikerguy3
May 08, 2008 (4:59 pm)
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Replying to: sgloon (May 08, 2008 9:13 am)

I started car shopping last December, and since I wanted an AWD CUV with manual xmission that gets good gas mileage and has a sunroof - there were very few choices for me.
 
The Forester popped up in my research. I went down and test drove an '08. The vehicle overall was "okay" - but lacking in many areas such as style, comfort, interior space, no tinted windows, etc. So I decided not to buy, and keep looking (at CRV, Grand Vitara, RAV4, Outlander, etc).
 
Then, I went to the Auto Show and saw the new '09 Forester. Bingo! It addressed all the shortcomings of the '08 Forester. I bought my '09 in Feb & now have about 2,500 miles on it. I have had NO problems/issues with it. I love this car!
 
So - my advice is - even tho the '08 has rebates and killer deals...buy the '09. It has many improvements and will have a much higher resale value down the road.
 
Interestingly, neither of the 2 Subaru dealerships I went to back in Dec/Jan even told me of the upcoming '09....I am SO glad I did not buy an '08! I guess salespeople are salespeople - they wanted to sell me the vehicle the had on their lot that day. I wish I could say Subaru salespeople are better/different than the rest of the auto brands...

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