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XT .vs. X auto transmissions by kurtamaxxxguy
May 07, 2008 (6:30 am)
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from cars101.com:
 
X: Automatic (and in LL, Automatic Sportshift 4speed):
1st 2.785, 2nd 1.545, 3rd 1.0, 4th 0.694 reverse 2.272; final 4.444
 
XT: Automatic SportShift 4speed:
1st 2.785, 2nd 1.545. 3rd 1.0, 4th 0.694, reverse 2.272. Final 4.111
 
Note XT's final drive ratio is lower. This explains why the Turbo keeps its engine revs down at freeway cruising speeds (at 60 mph, I see around 2K revs.).
 
Motor Trend claims the XT gets from 0 to 60 in about 6.6 sec, ..vs.. 9.9 sec for the X series. They also remark that the turbo is a twin scroller, and doesn't have the usual turbo rush (latter seems true for me).
 
You will use more fuel with the XT. I have yet to break 20 mpg with mine, though nearly all my driving's on local streets with plenty of traffic lights. At least the engine doesn't burn oil
 
And as for the magic foam, tkay, a lot of that went away in lieu of silicone lube on the wiring harnesses in the roof (wires like to move around up there and they kept rubbing the roof or the plastic light housing). Once it warms up here I'll know whether or not the new setup works.
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Re: MPG [leo2633] by ateixeira
May 07, 2008 (10:08 am)
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Replying to: leo2633 (May 06, 2008 12:47 pm)

PZEV? Hmm, tempting.
 
What exit?
 
 
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Re: The turbo furor dies down [kurtamaxxxguy] by ateixeira
May 07, 2008 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (May 06, 2008 2:45 pm)

Glad to hear that, kurt.
 
I guess a certain person who called your engine a lemon now has his foot in his mouth.
 
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Re: MPG [ateixeira] by leo2633
May 07, 2008 (10:15 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 07, 2008 10:08 am)

juice,
 
Exit 82 on the Garden State Parkway. If you are interested, go to their website, and print yourself out a $250.00 coupon. It'll pay for your gas and tolls! Seriously, though, it's probably only a few hours away for you.
 
Len
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Re: Just test drove... [bbthomas] by ateixeira
May 07, 2008 (10:25 am)
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Replying to: bbthomas (May 06, 2008 3:28 pm)

Keep in mind the Forester was the only AWD model in that test. I'm not sure if the AWD option on the others affects the gearing. Probably in some cases, because manufacturers gear AWD models shorter to offset the extra weight and drivetrain loss.
 
Edit: Toyota does use a shorter final drive for its AWD Sienna, compared to the FWD model. So it's likely they do the same for the RAV4.
 
Make sure you read the whole review, though. You might miss some highlights:
 
* most lateral grip (tied)
* most HP
* lightest
* best ride
* best visibility
* 2nd best braking
* most ground clearance
* tightest turning circle (despite AWD)
* most balanced weight distribution
* highest towing capacity
* most headroom front and rear
* most front legroom
* 2nd best figure 8
 
The funny part was this:
 
this rare thing called "great outward vision."
 
So true!
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Re: Just test drove... [ateixeira] by kurtamaxxxguy
May 07, 2008 (11:43 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 07, 2008 10:25 am)

But in Los Angeles CA , people don't __want__ vision! They want gun slit windows tinted almost opaque! That way they're "invisible" and can drive like crazy - until they pile into someone else !!
  
And (perhaps ), big vehicle sales, along with gansta specials, are doin' fine down there.
 
Seriously, good visibility is great to have (if nothing else, to help avoid the "fools") and the '09 Forester stacks up very well there.
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Re: Just test drove... [kurtamaxxxguy] by ateixeira
May 07, 2008 (12:44 pm)
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (May 07, 2008 11:43 am)

It's brilliant, though, if you think about it.
 
You build a car with terrible visibility to the rear, then market a $2000 Navigation system with a backup cam! Win-Win!
 
Subaru was guilty, too, on the original Tribeca. It's much better now.
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Re: Just test drove... [ateixeira] by bbthomas
May 07, 2008 (5:41 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 07, 2008 10:25 am)

I agree with the review having test drove the 09 a few weeks ago. I think it's the best overall package, but they missed a few details. I'll probably end up getting an LL Bean/Limited once they become more plentyful.
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Forester video by rsholland
May 08, 2008 (4:11 am)
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http://allworldcars.com/wordpress/?p=4175
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Award for the 2.5 turbo by kurtamaxxxguy
May 08, 2008 (6:12 am)
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referred to by an Edmunds Straightline blog link:
 
http://www.ukipme.com/engineoftheyear/winners_08/2_25.html

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