Last post on Oct 15, 2012 at 2:22 PM
You are in the Subaru Forester
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Subaru Forester, Future Vehicle, Wagon
#1170 of 3748 Re: Just test drove... [lucyinfiniti]
May 06, 2008 (3:28 pm)
"i also can't but help but wonder why Subaru is still using a 4-speed automatic what with everyone wither switching to CVT's or 5,6, or 7 speed automatics..."
I was also surprised by this and was hoping for the 5EAT. MT just had a base model comparison in which the Forester placed 1st. Based on their data it has the highest RPM in top gear.
Top-gear revs 60 mph:
CR-V - 1900 rpm (5AT)
Rogue - 2000 rpm (CVT)
VU - 1900 rpm (4AT)
Forester - 2450 rpm (4AT)
RAV4 - 2200 rpm (4AT)
#1171 of 3748 Re: MPG [leo2633]
May 06, 2008 (3:56 pm)
Was about to say all the cars in NJ and NY are PZEV
#1172 of 3748 Re: Just test drove... [bbthomas]
May 06, 2008 (4:04 pm)
and as your list shows, the majority of comparable vehicles come only with a 4AT. To be fair, the list does miss the Mitsu with a 6. Tuscon runs a 4AT, Santa Fe a 4 or 5 AT. I think though that while the 4AT is acceptable in the n/a engine, the XT should have the 5EAT subie already makes.
#1173 of 3748 No Problem With The T (kurtamaxxxguy)
May 07, 2008 (1:38 am)
Good news on your ride..Thats Cool!!!!!! does anyone know if they sell Blue Pearl Spray can paint.
#1174 of 3748 XT .vs. X auto transmissions
May 07, 2008 (6:30 am)
X: Automatic (and in LL, Automatic Sportshift 4speed):
1st 2.785, 2nd 1.545, 3rd 1.0, 4th 0.694 reverse 2.272; final 4.444
XT: Automatic SportShift 4speed:
1st 2.785, 2nd 1.545. 3rd 1.0, 4th 0.694, reverse 2.272. Final 4.111
Note XT's final drive ratio is lower. This explains why the Turbo keeps its engine revs down at freeway cruising speeds (at 60 mph, I see around 2K revs.).
Motor Trend claims the XT gets from 0 to 60 in about 6.6 sec, ..vs.. 9.9 sec for the X series. They also remark that the turbo is a twin scroller, and doesn't have the usual turbo rush (latter seems true for me).
You will use more fuel with the XT. I have yet to break 20 mpg with mine, though nearly all my driving's on local streets with plenty of traffic lights. At least the engine doesn't burn oil
And as for the magic foam, tkay, a lot of that went away in lieu of silicone lube on the wiring harnesses in the roof (wires like to move around up there and they kept rubbing the roof or the plastic light housing). Once it warms up here I'll know whether or not the new setup works.
#1175 of 3748 Re: MPG [leo2633]
May 07, 2008 (10:08 am)
PZEV? Hmm, tempting.
#1176 of 3748 Re: The turbo furor dies down [kurtamaxxxguy]
May 07, 2008 (10:12 am)
Glad to hear that, kurt.
I guess a certain person who called your engine a lemon now has his foot in his mouth.
#1177 of 3748 Re: MPG [ateixeira]
May 07, 2008 (10:15 am)
Exit 82 on the Garden State Parkway. If you are interested, go to their website, and print yourself out a $250.00 coupon. It'll pay for your gas and tolls! Seriously, though, it's probably only a few hours away for you.
#1178 of 3748 Re: Just test drove... [bbthomas]
May 07, 2008 (10:25 am)
Keep in mind the Forester was the only AWD model in that test. I'm not sure if the AWD option on the others affects the gearing. Probably in some cases, because manufacturers gear AWD models shorter to offset the extra weight and drivetrain loss.
Edit: Toyota does use a shorter final drive for its AWD Sienna, compared to the FWD model. So it's likely they do the same for the RAV4.
Make sure you read the whole review, though. You might miss some highlights:
* most lateral grip (tied)
* most HP
* best ride
* best visibility
* 2nd best braking
* most ground clearance
* tightest turning circle (despite AWD)
* most balanced weight distribution
* highest towing capacity
* most headroom front and rear
* most front legroom
* 2nd best figure 8
The funny part was this:
this rare thing called "great outward vision."
#1179 of 3748 Re: Just test drove... [ateixeira]
May 07, 2008 (11:43 am)
But in Los Angeles CA , people don't __want__ vision! They want gun slit windows tinted almost opaque! That way they're "invisible" and can drive like crazy - until they pile into someone else !!
And (perhaps ), big vehicle sales, along with gansta specials, are doin' fine down there.
Seriously, good visibility is great to have (if nothing else, to help avoid the "fools") and the '09 Forester stacks up very well there.