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Toyota Corolla, Mazda MAZDA3, Volkswagen Jetta, Chevrolet Cobalt, Sedan
#8 of 50 Re: Toyota Corolla vs. Mazda 3 vs. Volkswaggen Jetta vs. Chevrolet CObalt [aviboy97]
Dec 19, 2007 (4:37 pm)
I am not sure about Mazda 3 fuel economy
I have read about 20-24 MPG fuel economy with 2.3 litter engine.
Now, this is very low fuel economy!!!!! V6 engines even top this fuel economy. For example, I used to have 2005 Toyota Solara SLE with 3.3l engine, and I usually could get 26MPG average fuel economy.
Now, If Mazda 3 could get on average 30MPG, wow it will be the perfect car for me.
I love Mazda 3 design; I believe Mazda 3 HB is the best looking vehicle, but fuel economy is poor for me!!! This is only my opinion. It depends what you want!
However, if we talk about fuel economy at 20-26 MPG, there are good choices in Mazda 3 price range. You can buy Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima.....and all these cars have fuel economy in 25-28 MPG!!!
It is a personal choice, and it is a good idea to go and test drive all vehicles you like, and then choose the best one that fits your budget!
Personally, I made my choice with 2007 Toyota Corolla, and I like it. I know it is not a Lexus, but it gives me comfortable ride and good fuel economy - average 30-32MPG.
#9 of 50 Re: Toyota Corolla vs. Mazda 3 vs. Volkswaggen Jetta vs. Chevrolet CObalt [dchev]
Dec 19, 2007 (7:12 pm)
2008 Mazda 3
Manual 5 speed - 2L engine - 24/32 mpg
Automatic 4 speed - 2L engine - 23/31 mpg
Manual 5 speed - 2.3L engine - 22/29 mpg
Automatic 5 speed - 2.3L engine - 22/29 mpg
#10 of 50 Re: Toyota Corolla vs. Mazda 3 vs. Volkswaggen Jetta vs. Chevrolet CObalt [backy]
Dec 20, 2007 (3:05 pm)
CR doesn't rate the price of cars. So the fact that, for example, one compact costs $2000 less than another doesn't factor into its rankings.
CR ... ranks the Jetta ... above the Corolla.
Hmmm, let's check that Oct. 2007 issue of CR again. CR makes clear that in addition to the ranking score, the vehicle's reliability is key to getting a recommendation. Only vehicles with good reliability are recommended. Since the Jetta has only "fair" reliability, CR does not recommend it. This is not new, the Jetta has a long history of poor reliability and has not been recommended by CR for quite a while. CR does recommend the Corolla as well as the Mazda3, Honda Civic, Ford Focus and Subaru Impreza.
The Cobalt is above only the Ion and Forenza in CR's rankings.
Same here, the Cobalt is not a recommended vehicle.
#11 of 50 Re: Toyota Corolla vs. Mazda 3 vs. Volkswaggen Jetta vs. Chevrolet CObalt [autonomous]
Dec 20, 2007 (3:38 pm)
You are confusing CR's rankings of cars with their recommendations. First, they rank cars in order of how they perform in their road tests. Then they decide which cars to recommend. To be recommended, the car must score acceptably in its tests, must have good overall crash test scores, and must have at least average predicted reliability. (There is a "top" level recommendation also, with more stringent criteria.)
So it is true that CR ranks the Jetta above the Corolla. But the Corolla is recommended, while the Jetta is not because the reliability of the 2.5L models has been below average. (That means, technically, CR could recommend the turbo and diesel versions of the Jetta, which have average reliability, but CR doesn't get that fine-grained in its recommendations.)
#12 of 50 Re: Toyota Corolla vs. Mazda 3 vs. Volkswaggen Jetta vs. Chevrolet CObalt [backy]
Dec 21, 2007 (2:21 pm)
You are confusing CR's rankings of cars with their recommendations.
Well, let's say that the rank means little without the recommendation.
#13 of 50 Re: Toyota Corolla vs. Mazda 3 vs. Volkswaggen Jetta vs. Chevrolet CObalt [autonomous]
Dec 21, 2007 (3:16 pm)
Why is that? What if someone wants to buy a new model that CR has tested, it's done well in their tests, but there's not enough reliability data for CR to recommended it yet. Are you saying that no one should buy that car until CR's surveys cough up enough data to let CR give it a predicted reliability score?
#14 of 50 Re: Toyota Corolla vs. Mazda 3 vs. Volkswaggen Jetta vs. Chevrolet CObalt
Dec 21, 2007 (4:20 pm)
By far, which is(overall) the most......
I need to see it in this format.
#15 of 50 Re: Toyota Corolla vs. Mazda 3 vs. Volkswaggen Jetta vs. Chevrolet CObalt [tpulak]
Dec 21, 2007 (5:10 pm)
As you wish, my Master [insert wheezing sound ala Darth Vader]:
expensive: too close to call between Jetta and Mazdaspeed3
least expensive: Cobalt, especially looking at real-world prices
most powerful: Mazdaspeed3 in a run-away
least powerful: Corolla
most mpg: Corolla
least mpg: Mazdaspeed3(?)
most reliable: Corolla (per CR surveys)
least reliable: (tie) Cobalt and Jetta 2.5 (per CR surveys)
#16 of 50 Re: Toyota Corolla vs. Mazda 3 vs. Volkswaggen Jetta vs. Chevrolet CObalt [backy]
Dec 22, 2007 (4:58 am)
Remember this is CR you are refering to which should not be taken too seriously.
#17 of 50 Re: Toyota Corolla vs. Mazda 3 vs. Volkswaggen Jetta vs. Chevrolet CObalt
Dec 22, 2007 (7:40 am)
IMO, the only two in this list that somewhat compare are the Corolla and the Cobalt. They are both small, basic cars with a 4cyl engine and choice of 5spd or auto. As said again and again, the Cobalt will be more 'fun' to drive and feel more powerful, but wont be put together as well as the Corolla. If you want basic, no frills, non exciting, fuel efficient transportation, go with the Corolla. Who knows, you might like one over the other. The reason I bought my 2007 Cobalt LS, 4dr, auto, was there was nothing else on the market back in the spring of '07 that gave me more bang for the buck. I couldn't get a Hyundai or Kia for the out the door price I paid. (~$12100)