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#41 of 49 Consumer Reports says.... by aviboy97 Jan 05, 2008 (6:31 am)
...the Mazda3gets the same fuel economy as the Honda Civic EX. Mazda3 gets 30 overall vs the Honda at 31 overall. This is on their list of "Top 12 Gas Savers". Surprisingly, they Toyota Corolla is not on this list. Replies to this message: backy (Jan 05, 2008 11:51 am)
#42 of 49 Re: Consumer Reports says.... [aviboy97] by backy Jan 05, 2008 (11:51 am)
Replying to: aviboy97 (Jan 05, 2008 6:31 am) That is odd. CR got 28 mpg for the Civic EX AT they most recently tested, but 29 mpg for the Corolla LE AT. So putting the Civic on the "top 12 gas savers" list but not the Corolla is very strange, especially since the AT versions are the most popular.   Actually, in CR's tests the Mazda3i got better overall FE than the Civic EX. The Mazda3i got 30 mpg overall with the AT and 33 mpg with the MT. The Civic EX got 28 mpg overall with the AT and 31 mpg with the MT.
#43 of 49 Mazda 3 ....reliable?? by tpulak Jan 05, 2008 (12:42 pm)
I heard some people in the Mazda 3 forum complaining about tranny problems, at 70k miles. Is this true? Are there more problems? Replies to this message: aviboy97 (Jan 06, 2008 6:10 pm) poncho167 (Jan 12, 2008 5:30 am) aviboy97 (Jan 12, 2008 7:29 am) backy (Jan 12, 2008 8:03 am)
#44 of 49 Mazda3i manual gas mileage by nsbio1 Jan 05, 2008 (12:49 pm)
Brand-new 2008 Mazda3i, real-world mileage, 2nd tank (1-st refueling after the dealer-filled tank), 29.1mpg in mixed driving. Mileage might even improve with mileage (pardon the pun), after the car is fully broken in.
#45 of 49 Re:2009 Corolla vs. Mazda 3 by flpcguy Jan 06, 2008 (2:25 pm)
Replying to: flpcguy (Dec 24, 2007 1:29 pm) BTW the new 2009 Corolla abandons the great power train with higher drive ratio for Scion or Matrix parts so mileage drops considerably even after they detuned the new engine firmware. Revs are up a lot. Red light racing is improved at the expense of cruising (no more cruising I-95 at 3000 rpm to do 75), engine life is reduced, noise increased, and fuel economy way down. The 2009 is just like all the clones. I hope it is a lot cheaper to build (fewer, cheaper parts) and the savings are used to hold the line on pricing not increase profit margins. Also, the new nose is ugly and looks cheap. http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-toyota-corolla/466914/   My advice, buy a 2008 CE 5-speed while you can, especially while the factory to dealer $1500 incentive applies. Otherwise, the basic Mazda 3i 5-speed (non-touring) is the clear choice over the 2009 Corolla, even for economy minded drivers like me.
#46 of 49 Re: Mazda 3 ....reliable?? [tpulak] by aviboy97 Jan 06, 2008 (6:10 pm)
Replying to: tpulak (Jan 05, 2008 12:42 pm) I heard some people in the Mazda 3 forum complaining about tranny problems, at 70k miles. Is this true? Are there more problems?   If there are a select few that are complaining, then obviously those individuals have had issues. According to most every source that rates reliability, the Mazda3 is a consensus pick.   Is the Mazda3 perfect? No. Do you stand a chance with something going wrong? Yes. Name a vehicle that has been perfect? Can't think of any? Thats right, there are none. I know a few of you might say Corolla or Civic, but, there is no hiding the fact that they have had their issues, especially the 2006+ Civic. Replies to this message: poncho167 (Jan 12, 2008 5:30 am) aviboy97 (Jan 12, 2008 7:29 am) backy (Jan 12, 2008 8:03 am)
#47 of 49 Re: Mazda 3 ....reliable?? [aviboy97] by poncho167 Jan 12, 2008 (5:30 am)
Replying to: aviboy97 (Jan 06, 2008 6:10 pm) If styling is most important to you I agree the Mazda is probably the easiest on the eyes but Mazda have never been known for having good mileage cars so that appears to be their only downfall. When I used to sell Mazda's 20-years-ago they had their smallest compact (don't remember the name) that only got low 20 mpg highway and was priced at a ridiculous $20,000 at that time. Replies to this message: aviboy97 (Jan 12, 2008 7:29 am) backy (Jan 12, 2008 8:03 am)
#48 of 49 Re: Mazda 3 ....reliable?? [poncho167] by aviboy97 Jan 12, 2008 (7:29 am)
Replying to: poncho167 (Jan 12, 2008 5:30 am) Mazda have never been known for having good mileage cars so that appears to be their only downfall.   I would disagree. I see older Mazdas, and newer ones, in our service shop that have very high mileage and are just in for routine maintenance. The Miata, Protege, and 626 have been vehicles that have been reliable. Out of Mazdas newer product, they all have been reliable as well.   When I used to sell Mazda's 20-years-ago they had their smallest compact (don't remember the name) that only got low 20 mpg highway and was priced at a ridiculous $20,000 at that time.   Back then I believe it was the Mazda 323 GLX 4x4.
#49 of 49 Re: Mazda 3 ....reliable?? [poncho167] by backy Jan 12, 2008 (8:03 am)
Replying to: poncho167 (Jan 12, 2008 5:30 am) Twenty years ago isn't now. The Mazda3i gets very good fuel economy, e.g. the Mazda3i AT actually got better overall fuel economy (30 mpg vs. 29) than the Corolla AT in CR's road tests, even though the Mazda has a larger, more powerful engine.

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