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Toyota Corolla, Mazda MAZDA3, Volkswagen Jetta, Chevrolet Cobalt, Sedan
#2 of 50 Re: Toyota Corolla vs. Mazda 3 vs. Volkswaggen Jetta vs. Chevrolet CObalt [tpulak]
Dec 18, 2007 (8:54 pm)
If you can wait until February 11, 2007, I would recommend 2009 Toyota Corolla.
It will be new generation Corolla with good fuel economy and many standard options. Unless, you want the 9th generation Corolla, which is also good (I have it and love it, so far).
If you can not wait, Mazda 3, Honda Civic, or Hyundai Elantra are good choices.
Or maybe Scion xD.......I like Mazda 3, but many people say that it has low fuel economy.
Go test drive them and see for yourself, but Honda and Scion (Toyota Corolla) will have the best fuel economy, style and reliability.
Also check www.fitzmall.com, and you can find excellent prices for any of these cars.
#3 of 50 Re: Toyota Corolla vs. Mazda 3 vs. Volkswaggen Jetta vs. Chevrolet CObalt [dchev]
Dec 19, 2007 (7:22 am)
I like Mazda 3, but many people say that it has low fuel economy.
The Mazda3 i has good fuel economy, only a couple MPG's behind Honda and Toyota, but, it has more power. Mazda3 s has lower fuel economy, but, by far the most power.
Honda and Scion (Toyota Corolla) will have the best fuel economy, style and reliability.
All are very reliable. Will not go wrong with any. Style is totally subjective.
Go test drive them and see for yourself
Best advise. Need to drive them to see what fits you best.
#4 of 50 Re: Toyota Corolla vs. Mazda 3 vs. Volkswaggen Jetta vs. Chevrolet CObalt
Dec 19, 2007 (11:28 am)
It depends what features you need to have. IMO, you can't beat a Cobalt LS for most bang for the buck. A basic Cobalt will be your least expensive, followed by the Corolla. The Mazda 3 and Jetta are a step up as far as features, sportiness, looks, etc.. The Corolla will feel the least powerful, but will yield the best fuel economy, The Cobalt has more power than the Corolla and a few less MPGs The 5cyl engine in the Jetta is a whole different class of engine IMO and not that great economy wise. The Mazda 3 and Jetta will be thousands of dollars more than a Cobalt or Corolla.
#5 of 50 Re: Toyota Corolla vs. Mazda 3 vs. Volkswaggen Jetta vs. Chevrolet CObalt [tpulak]
Dec 19, 2007 (2:41 pm)
I lowered my choices to Toyota Corolla , Mazda 3 , Volkswaggen Jetta, and Chevrolet Cobalt.
I would not say that this is lowering your choices but rather checking a segment segment than the Toyota Camry. Some of us think small is beautiful. On the other hand, you may find these cars are too small for your needs. The good news is that the new Toyota Camry is fuel efficient and no longer bland.
cars, that give me good fuel economy, decent power, some style, features for the money, a good amount of interior room, and reliability.
You may want to use the extensive research of Consumer Reports that compiles information from millions of drivers annually. CR rates the Toyota Corolla, Mazda3 and Honda Civic highly in terms of features, price and reliability. The VW and the Cobalt are another story. Test drive the ones that seem interesting to see which is best for you. Best of luck.
#6 of 50 Re: Toyota Corolla vs. Mazda 3 vs. Volkswaggen Jetta vs. Chevrolet CObalt [dchev]
Dec 19, 2007 (3:08 pm)
Feb. 11, 2008.
#7 of 50 Re: Toyota Corolla vs. Mazda 3 vs. Volkswaggen Jetta vs. Chevrolet CObalt [autonomous]
Dec 19, 2007 (3:40 pm)
CR doesn't rate the price of cars. So the fact that, for example, one compact costs $2000 less than another doesn't factor into its rankings. As for features, CR does rate the Civic (EX and Hybrid specifically) and Mazda3 highly, but it actually ranks the Jetta (also the previous-gen Focus and the Elantra) above the Corolla. The Cobalt is above only the Ion and Forenza in CR's rankings. As far as reliability, it ranks the Civic Hybrid and Corolla highest in this class in reliability, with the Civic EX, Mazda3, and Impreza above-average in reliability also. (As of last October CR didn't have enough data to rate the Elantra, Lancer, Sentra, and Forenza in reliability.)
#8 of 50 Re: Toyota Corolla vs. Mazda 3 vs. Volkswaggen Jetta vs. Chevrolet CObalt [aviboy97]
Dec 19, 2007 (4:37 pm)
I am not sure about Mazda 3 fuel economy
I have read about 20-24 MPG fuel economy with 2.3 litter engine.
Now, this is very low fuel economy!!!!! V6 engines even top this fuel economy. For example, I used to have 2005 Toyota Solara SLE with 3.3l engine, and I usually could get 26MPG average fuel economy.
Now, If Mazda 3 could get on average 30MPG, wow it will be the perfect car for me.
I love Mazda 3 design; I believe Mazda 3 HB is the best looking vehicle, but fuel economy is poor for me!!! This is only my opinion. It depends what you want!
However, if we talk about fuel economy at 20-26 MPG, there are good choices in Mazda 3 price range. You can buy Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima.....and all these cars have fuel economy in 25-28 MPG!!!
It is a personal choice, and it is a good idea to go and test drive all vehicles you like, and then choose the best one that fits your budget!
Personally, I made my choice with 2007 Toyota Corolla, and I like it. I know it is not a Lexus, but it gives me comfortable ride and good fuel economy - average 30-32MPG.
#9 of 50 Re: Toyota Corolla vs. Mazda 3 vs. Volkswaggen Jetta vs. Chevrolet CObalt [dchev]
Dec 19, 2007 (7:12 pm)
2008 Mazda 3
Manual 5 speed - 2L engine - 24/32 mpg
Automatic 4 speed - 2L engine - 23/31 mpg
Manual 5 speed - 2.3L engine - 22/29 mpg
Automatic 5 speed - 2.3L engine - 22/29 mpg
#10 of 50 Re: Toyota Corolla vs. Mazda 3 vs. Volkswaggen Jetta vs. Chevrolet CObalt [backy]
Dec 20, 2007 (3:05 pm)
CR doesn't rate the price of cars. So the fact that, for example, one compact costs $2000 less than another doesn't factor into its rankings.
CR ... ranks the Jetta ... above the Corolla.
Hmmm, let's check that Oct. 2007 issue of CR again. CR makes clear that in addition to the ranking score, the vehicle's reliability is key to getting a recommendation. Only vehicles with good reliability are recommended. Since the Jetta has only "fair" reliability, CR does not recommend it. This is not new, the Jetta has a long history of poor reliability and has not been recommended by CR for quite a while. CR does recommend the Corolla as well as the Mazda3, Honda Civic, Ford Focus and Subaru Impreza.
The Cobalt is above only the Ion and Forenza in CR's rankings.
Same here, the Cobalt is not a recommended vehicle.
#11 of 50 Re: Toyota Corolla vs. Mazda 3 vs. Volkswaggen Jetta vs. Chevrolet CObalt [autonomous]
Dec 20, 2007 (3:38 pm)
You are confusing CR's rankings of cars with their recommendations. First, they rank cars in order of how they perform in their road tests. Then they decide which cars to recommend. To be recommended, the car must score acceptably in its tests, must have good overall crash test scores, and must have at least average predicted reliability. (There is a "top" level recommendation also, with more stringent criteria.)
So it is true that CR ranks the Jetta above the Corolla. But the Corolla is recommended, while the Jetta is not because the reliability of the 2.5L models has been below average. (That means, technically, CR could recommend the turbo and diesel versions of the Jetta, which have average reliability, but CR doesn't get that fine-grained in its recommendations.)