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Subaru Legacy/Outback Wheel bearing failure

96 messages,  Last post on Jul 08, 2009 at 10:20 PM

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wheel bearing failures by erik9
Jul 11, 2008 (3:58 pm)
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Funny! when the dealer replaced the bearing on my new forester the service adviser called in the parts mgr. and they both gave me a line of bull about how they have'nt had to replace any wheel bearings on a forester in fifteen years! what a bunch of liars and losers..
 
                                         Erik
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Re: wheel bearing failures [erik9] by paisan
Jul 11, 2008 (4:01 pm)
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Replying to: erik9 (Jul 11, 2008 3:58 pm)

You had a bad dealer, don't hold that against SOA....
 
-mike
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Re: wheel bearing failures [paisan] by erik9
Jul 11, 2008 (4:26 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Jul 11, 2008 4:01 pm)

Mike,
 
Sorry but to burst your subaru love bubble but the area rep and subaru customer service were just as bad..I am very shocked that subaru is finally starting to admit that their cars have serious wheel bearing issues.There were alot of owners out there wanting to petition the ntsb about it...Well, my subaru nightmare is finally over hopefully it will fade quickly from memory...
 
                                                   Erik
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Re: wheel bearing failures [erik9] by paisan
Jul 11, 2008 (4:47 pm)
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Replying to: erik9 (Jul 11, 2008 4:26 pm)

It's been a known issue on the imprezas from 92->01 and on the Foresters from 98->02 well documented in the Subaru community. They used ball bearings instead of the roller bearings found in the Legacy. SVX also had issues with their bearings due to over-torquing at the factory and/or dealers.
 
How were they "bad" you should qualify that. Did they refuse to replace the bearings? Doubtful. Chances are the dealer who replaced them, did not re-install them properly (over torquing of the bearings kills them off the bat).
 
I don't have a "love bubble" for Subaru, heck I only own 1 Subaru right now along with my Armada and my next car will likely not even be a Subaru (unless the next legacy grows in size). I just don't like folks coming on here with un-quantified statements making claims against manufacturers and/or other users.
 
-mike
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Re: wheel bearing failures [paisan] by erik9
Jul 11, 2008 (5:46 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Jul 11, 2008 4:47 pm)

Mike,
 
YOU are the one coming onto this forum making UNQUALIFIED statements,as a host on this forum you should be ashamed.You and the rest of your cronies on this forum were no help whatsoever when i only came here for help and insight into my problem forester..So mike, you are now claiming to be more knowledgable than two subaru dealerships,a regional subaru rep and soa customer service? what a crock! get a life!
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Re: wheel bearing failures [erik9] by paisan
Jul 12, 2008 (4:45 pm)
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Replying to: erik9 (Jul 11, 2008 5:46 pm)

Since you don't know my background, yes, I'm more qualified than those folks listed. I won't write up a resume here but let's say in the Subaru community and at SOA, I'm well respected and my reputation for knowledge of Subies.
 
-mike
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Re: wheel bearing failures [paisan] by erik9
Jul 12, 2008 (5:26 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Jul 12, 2008 4:45 pm)

Mike,
 
Since you obviously didnt read my earlier posts why are you even bothering to comment now..? The first mechanic that attempted to repair my forester was a shop foreman at the dealership with twenty five years of experience working on subarus..How many years experience do you have?Maybe you can start a new career repairing all the subaru lemons since you're so well respected by soa! The mechanic at the second dealer was also a very experienced troubleshooter,he had the car for four days and still coudlnt fix it either..What was your earlier suggestion?that they both over torqued the bearings? It doesnt matter what type of bearings subaru uses they all have above average failure rates.
 
 
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Re: wheel bearing failures [erik9] by paisan
Jul 12, 2008 (5:36 pm)
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Replying to: erik9 (Jul 12, 2008 5:26 pm)

I have 10+ years working on Subarus and own my own performance shop that works not only on the run of the mill subies, but also racecars that put up with a lot of bearing pounding on the track. Did they replace your knuckles? Generally if a wheel bearing fails more than 1x or if there is excessive wear on on the knuckles where the bearings are pressed in, they also need to be replaced. These are mechanical components, there is no mystery to how they work.
 
-mike
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Re: wheel bearing failures [paisan] by erik9
Jul 12, 2008 (6:00 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Jul 12, 2008 5:36 pm)

Mike,
 
Like i said before the service mgrs and mechanics ignored my theories of cvc joints or other components causing the problem..They used a device called the "EAR" that pinpoints the problem..Do you own one of these? Excessive wear on a knuckle on a car that has less than a thousand miles on it?Over the last twenty five years i have owned more than ten cars with over 100.000 miles on them and never had a bearing failure or had to replace a transmission..You must be a busy man working on all that subaru junk...
                                                           
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Re: wheel bearing failures [erik9] by paisan
Jul 12, 2008 (6:23 pm)
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Replying to: erik9 (Jul 12, 2008 6:00 pm)

FYI, on Subarus and any car that has sealed style bearings, if the bearing fails the bits and pieces wear on the surface where the bearing is pressed into the knuckle. If the bearing failed and they put a new one in w/o properly inspecting and likely replacing the knuckle, then any future bearings that are pressed into their place will also fail.
 
On a side note ALL MECHANICAL PARTS CAN and DO FAIL, no matter if it's the best brand or the worst brand.
 
-mike

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