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Re: 1965 Skylark GS [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Dec 01, 2009 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Dec 01, 2009 11:55 am)

Over $30,000 for a non tri-power, non show-car but a nice nice vehicle.
 
This is why his price is so crazy. He can't be asking GTO money. He's probably going to sell it these days at $18K if it's really nice.
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Re: 1965 Skylark GS [Mr_Shiftright] by lemko
Dec 01, 2009 (12:09 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 01, 2009 11:57 am)

How about an Oldsmobile 442 versus a GTO? Would they be closer?
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Re: 1965 Skylark GS [Mr_Shiftright] by parm
Dec 01, 2009 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 01, 2009 11:57 am)

Well, when I implied that the 1965 Skylark GS was Buick's answer to the GTO, I was referring more to the fact that both cars shared the same platform (or am I incorrect on this?) and both used the same formula of stuffing a big engine into a smaller car.
 
In one of the threads in the Classic Car forum, somebody posted a link to old car brochures and I glanced through some of them last night. One of the brochures was specifically for a 1965 Skylark GS and the specs showed the engine as a "400" which kind of surprised me. Does anyone know if that was referring to an actual (and I'm assuming new for 1965) 400 ci engine, OR did they just fudge a little bit and turn the 401 into a 400 through "artistic license".
 
I'm kind of surprised there was that much difference in the performance between a '65 GTO and a GS. I'm guessing the 1/4 times were due to the differences in vehicle weight and gearing - with the Buick being the more luxo of the two.
 
In 1965, the basic formula for the GTO, GS and 442 were all pretty much the same - with the difference in their market values today being due to the marketing wizardry of Jim Wangers.
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Re: 1965 Skylark GS [lemko] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Dec 01, 2009 (12:24 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 01, 2009 12:09 pm)

Maybe a little closer but not "close", unless it were a W30 option, then definitely worth as much as a goat, even as much as a tri-power perhaps.
 
The market is very precise these days about makes, model, and options. One really cannot value a car accurately unless options are carefully investigated.
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Re: 1965 Skylark GS [parm] by andre1969
Dec 01, 2009 (12:34 pm)
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Replying to: parm (Dec 01, 2009 12:22 pm)

Yeah, that "400" is a bit of a fudge-job. It's really a 401 CID nailhead. Buick did come out with a true 400 for 1967, though. Here's a pretty good retrospective of the GS at musclecarclub.com
 
And yeah, the GS, 442, GTO, and Malibu SS were all on the same corporate A-body. Main difference was that the B-O-P triplets were stretched out about 11 inches, most of it in the rear, to give it a more substantial, upscale look than the Chevy. Same 115" wheelbase though.
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Re: 1965 Skylark GS [andre1969] by bhill2
Dec 01, 2009 (2:21 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Dec 01, 2009 12:34 pm)

Yeah, that "400" is a bit of a fudge-job. It's really a 401 CID nailhead.
 
For what it's worth, the engine was advertised as a 400 to satisfy a GM edict that nothing larger could be put in an intermediate. It saved them having to shave a cubic inch off somewhere.
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Re: 1965 Skylark GS [bhill2] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Dec 02, 2009 (7:26 pm)
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Replying to: bhill2 (Dec 01, 2009 2:21 pm)

Here's another "400" for about the same price, but with a bit more visibility than a '65 Skylark:
 
http://www.ferraris-online.com/pages/carintro.php?reqcardir=FE-412-64307
 
or how about a '65 Skylark CONVERTIBLE for the same money?
 
http://www.specialtysales.com/1965-buick-skylark--c-2422.htm
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Re: 1965 Skylark GS [Mr_Shiftright] by andre1969
Dec 02, 2009 (7:49 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 02, 2009 7:26 pm)

That's not a Ferarri...that's a 1980 Malibu sport coupe with some kind of aftermarket kit on it.
 
That Skylark seems like a nice little car. How would it perform though, with that little 300 V-8 and 2-speed automatic, though? I know you don't buy a car like this to drag race though...it's more about just riding around on a nice day and having fun and enjoying yourself.
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Re: 1965 Skylark GS [andre1969] by fintail
Dec 02, 2009 (7:57 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Dec 02, 2009 7:49 pm)

Those Ferraris make no sense to me, how they remained in production for so long. That design dates to ca. 1974, when the angular lines were avantgarde and cool. But it was a relic by 1986, especially for that brand. Must have been some money problems.
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Re: 1965 Skylark GS [Mr_Shiftright] by parm
Dec 02, 2009 (9:11 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 02, 2009 7:26 pm)

Let's see, a Ferrari vs. a Skylark? Well, since the cost of a tune up for a Ferrari would cost more than the GNP of some 3rd-world countries, I'll go with the Skylark.
 
While the yellow convertible Skylark looks like a beauty, it doesn't have the larger motor of the GS which should carry some cache, no? Still, your point that the blue '65 Skylark GS coupe is overpriced is well-taken.

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