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458 messages, Last post on Dec 03, 2009 at 1:18 PM
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Replying to: parm (Oct 29, 2009 4:55 pm) Well, just as a rough reference point, CR tested a 1955 DeSoto Fireflite with a 200 hp 291-4bbl Hemi, and I think 0-60 came up in around 13 seconds. They also tested a 1955 Olds 98 with (I think) a 324-4bbl putting out 202 hp, and got 0-60 in around 11.8 seconds. I think a '54 Roadmaster would have a 322-4bbl with 200 hp. I'd guess performance-wise, it would come in about on par with the DeSoto? Bigger engine, more torque, but also heavier. The DeSoto was probably handicapped by only having a 2-speed Powerflite, versus the 4-speed Hydramatic in the Olds, but I imagine the Dynaflow would be a hinderance, as well? Any of these cars would be slow in a drag race by today's standards, but should be fine for most driving. FWIW, 0-60 in my '76 LeMans, '79New Yorkers, and '85 Silverado comes up around 11-12 seconds, and I never have any problems with highway merging. Out on the highway, I imagine the biggest annoyance would be how those old bias-ply tires and the loose steering tend to let the car wander. Truck ruts and those metal joints on bridges that run with the road, rather than across it, will also make the car wander around if you hit them. And radial tires, unfortunately, aren't always the answer. Bias ply tires are softer than radial tires, so in those days they made the suspensions and such a bit stiffer to compensate. Once radials came out, they actually softened up the suspensions to counteract the stiffer radials. So, putting a stiff tire on a car with a stiffer suspension can cause all sorts of handling/ride "anomalies", as they say at NASA. As the 1960's progressed, I think the cars became more radial-friendly. I have radials on my '67 Catalina and it seems to do okay, although one of my old mechanics said that the radial tires were the reason it tended to chuck hubcaps. And then, when it comes to braking, well those old drum brakes, especially power-assisted, can be very touchy until you get used to them. While a new car can stop more quickly in an emergency...say a situation where you have to haul the car down from highway speeds to a dead stop, in other situations the car might actually stop quicker, like if you just need to slow down some and press on the brake pedal a bit, and they grab quicker than you thought. If someone's tailgating you, they might end up imbedded in your bumper!
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Replying to: andre1969 (Oct 30, 2009 6:24 am)
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Replying to: parm (Oct 30, 2009 6:31 pm) |
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Replying to: andre1969 (Oct 28, 2009 8:33 am) Question: were the headlamp doors on the 1942 DeSoto power operated or manual?
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Oct 28, 2009 8:15 pm) |
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 03, 2009 6:08 am) I'm guessing the '42 DeSoto had vacuum-operated headlight covers, but I don't know for sure. I think my '79 New Yorker's covers are electric, as they can open and close with the key in the "on" position, but the car doesn't have to be running. If you need to keep them open to change a headlight, all you have to do is turn the car off before you turn off the headlights. That locks the covers open, but then they'll close up the next time you turn the car back on.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 03, 2009 6:36 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 03, 2009 8:17 am) My mother had a '72 Lincoln Coupe with them... (car I learned to drive on..), but I don't ever remember a problem with them half-closing... I think the vacuum activation was just to move the doors, either direction... Once they were open or closed, that was it... I don't think vacuum was necessary to keep them in position (I'm not really mechanically inclined, so I could be wrong about the operation...lol... but, I know they never got sleepy.) Mom never bought me a Vette, so I'm not sure about those....  regards, kyfdx
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Replying to: kyfdx (Nov 03, 2009 8:22 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 03, 2009 8:28 am)
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