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#56 of 85 Fixed hard steering on my 2007 Odyssey by jhs24

Aug 14, 2010 (8:55 am)

If you have hard steering and the car seems to wander on the road even after an alignment then you may have the same problem I had. This seems to affect 2006-2008+ Odyssey's that had the new struts to make the ride softer than the 2005. I had a 2005 and it had hard suspension (rode very stiff). Honda used different struts starting in 2006 to make a soft ride. I have successfully fixed my own 2007 Odyssey struts and documented what I found. I had two alignments done and everything was in spec but the van still pulled all over the road until I fixed the struts and then got another alignment (all alignments were by the same shop and the same person checked the final numbers). It now drives very light on the steering wheel and doesn't wander on the road. I hope this can help someone.
 
I had already replaced the reservoir to silence the pump, but that has NOTHING to do with hard steering as long as the pump is silent. I did not replace the pump or the steering rack.
 
See below on the link for how I fixed my Odyssey.
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f17a7b3/85

#57 of 85 2006 Odyssey parking in & pulling out difficulties by sistar

Aug 23, 2010 (7:13 pm)

most time I got no power steering (left turn only), and a few times i just had to do it the hard way - scrape my way in and out. Out of job, can't afford dealer repair. The van has 65k miles, out of warranty of course.
 
Any suggestion?

#58 of 85 Re: 2006 Odyssey parking in & pulling out difficulties [sistar] by jhs24

Sep 05, 2010 (11:38 pm)

Replying to: sistar (Aug 23, 2010 7:13 pm)
This sounds like a steering rack problem, not a strut problem. It requires unbolting the front subframe and supporting the engine according to the service manual. I'd figure it's a $1,500 job at a dealership and it's not one I'd do at home because it's pretty involved.

#60 of 85 Re: 2006 - Pwr Steering Pump Failure [odyssey_07] by eferarita

Oct 19, 2010 (2:07 pm)

Replying to: odyssey_07 (Jul 08, 2010 12:44 pm)
I have the same problem with my 2007 Odyssey (70K miles) I took it in to the dealer they are telling me the Power Steering pump is bad and the they think the timing belt tension needs to be replaced (they don't know for sure) but there is some type of noise coming from the back by the timing belt area. I have about $1000 worth of work that needs to be done....I had the Tranny changed out under the warranty at about 30K miles, the brakes been grinding ever since about 20K....I called Honda USA Corp. I can not believe the way they handled this situation.....I thought I was talking to a Customer Service Call Center in a 3rd world country. (REAL BAD CUSTOMER SERVICE) I owned 5 different Hondas 3 Odysseys,1 accord and 1 civic......because of the BAD service that Honda Corp USA provided me with I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER HONDA AGAIN.
 
I have a 1997 Camry close to 200K runs like the day i purchased it 13 years ago. My next car will be a TOYOTA.
 
Corporate will not do anything to help the consumer....after reading all the issues that Odyssey have once they hit 50K miles,I will BUY TOYOTA and trade this POS in and get the new SIENNA it's a much better looking van the 2011 and a better all around car.

#61 of 85 Re: 2006 - Pwr Steering Pump Failure [eferarita] by jhs24

Oct 19, 2010 (11:46 pm)

Replying to: eferarita (Oct 19, 2010 2:07 pm)
I agree that I've been disappointed with the strut problem and hope I don't have the torque converter problem. I also replaced all my rotors and pads since the previous owner had pretty much warped them from going down a mountain with the brakes on instead of manually downshifting. Honda rotors and brakes are really not that great, but what else is new. Vehicles require maintenance.
 
Toyota has also had their share of problems. There were quite a few Camry's that had engine sludge problems due to undersized oil ports about 5-10 years back. The entire engines seized. Also, when I was comparing the Odyssey to the Sienna about 3 years ago TOYOTA had some major problems with bad welds on the front door hinges. The spot welds would come loose and the doors would bend completely forwards towards the front of the van on a downward slope or if it was windy. Usually the driver door went first since it was used the most. The only solution was a new door because the welds that broke were internal to the door. Toyota would not issue a recall because they didn't want to pay on the number of recalls. Each door replacement was $1,000/door and there was no way to reinforce the welds since other panels were welded on after the hinges (there was no access to the welds anymore).I test drove a '05 Sienna and I saw the welds starting to fail myself (spot welds) at low mileage and knew Toyota was not owning up to it. We now see what has happened since as Toyota got in big trouble this year over recalls they did not issue but should have.
 
Needless to say, every car manufacturer has problems. There is no guarantee that the 2011 Sienna will be better or worse than the 2011 Odyssey. True, some models can be more problematic than others, but in the end it can just be the luck of the draw. My mother has a 1998 Camry with 130,000 miles on it and never had any major problems. My old neighbor had one and the engine locked up one day with the same mileage due to sludge. Toyota replaced it and owned up since it was a known issue, so that was good. Honda recalls some things, others they don't. I hope you have better luck when you get the Sienna. Please post and let us all know how it goes.
 
My Odyssey is a dream to drive again since I fixed the struts. I've driven 6,000 miles in the last three months and some days were 11 hrs on the road straight. I hope it keeps up since I'm now at 45,000 miles.

#62 of 85 Re: Is all power steering problem related to reservoir problem? [jjlodyssey07] by amacatula

Dec 15, 2010 (7:24 pm)

Replying to: jjlodyssey07 (Jul 26, 2010 11:19 am)

#63 of 85 Re: Is all power steering problem related to reservoir problem? [amacatula] by jhs24

Dec 15, 2010 (7:43 pm)

Replying to: amacatula (Dec 15, 2010 7:24 pm)
No, it's not. There are other issues that can certainly be the problem.

#64 of 85 Fix for Steering Wheel Hard to Turn Quickly at Low Speeds by imo

Dec 17, 2010 (4:29 pm)

TSB 10-076 - Steering Wheel Is Hard to Turn Quickly at Low Speeds
Applies To: 200510 Odyssey ALL
 
Google for TSB 10-076 and read about this fix in the Ody forum.
 
I had this problem on the 2008 Ody. Hard to turn at low speed but pump didn't make any noise.
I showed the TSB to the Service Adviser at the Honda dealer.
They replaced the PS Pump with w/o any question since van still under warranty.
Note: this PS pump is a newer version only available since November 2010.

#65 of 85 TSB 10-076 repair question by sistar

Dec 21, 2010 (8:57 am)

I notice it was issued on November 25, 2010, less than a month ago.
 
I spoke with my local service manager on December 9 during oil change, complaining about low speed/parking lot power steering failure, he said he did not know anything about that, and recommended that I change power steering fluid to start with.
I suspect he probably already knew it is a pump failure that requires replacement with upgraded pump, 2 weeks after the issue date, but for whatever reason he choose not to discuss that with me.
 
The car is 2006 Odyssey EXL/entertaiment and it has 68k miles. I bought it this summer from my neighbor who has relocated oversea. They knew this steering failure problem but did not take action.
 
I spoke with American Honda this morning and the word is - it is up to the service manager to make any call.
 
I am not able to sqeeze out extra $2k without a job right now, so I want try my best to get something called 'good-will' repair.
 
Any suggestion is welcome
 
===============
Service Bulletin
08 2010 American Honda Motor Co., Inc. C All Rights Reserved
November 25, 2010
10-076
Applies To: 2005C10 Odyssey C ALL
Steering Wheel Is Hard to Turn Quickly at Low Speeds
SYMPTOM
The steering wheel is hard to turn quickly when driving
at low speeds, such as when driving in parking lots.
PROBABLE CAUSE
The power steering pump is not providing enough
assist.
CORRECTIVE ACTION
Replace the power steering pump.
PARTS INFORMATION
Power Steering Pump Sub Assembly:
P/N 56110-RGL-A03
Power Steering Pump Outlet Hose O-ring:
P/N 91345-RDA-A01
WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION
The normal warranty applies.
Operation Number: 512100
Flat Rate Time: 0.6 hour
Failed Part: P/N 56110-RGL-A02

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