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| I expect to see more hybrids, hopefully more diesels, and lower displacement engines with turbocharging. I also think that both 6 and 8 cylinder engines will be rare in cars and exclusive to high performance and luxury cars. I hope that the number of truck based SUV's and extended cab pickups not used for business purposes will decline dramatically. | |
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Replying to: stommps (Dec 21, 2007 9:41 am) |
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He was the one that ordered the tide to go out. Events will overtake the US Gov't and all its rules and regulations enacted in 2007/2008 will make King Harald look sane. The oil producing countries have pricing power now (Yes Now) by 2020 a vehicle getting only 35 mpg will not find a market. Window dressing will mollify the people for a few years but reality will eventually intrude.
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Replying to: dreyfus1 (Dec 22, 2007 11:55 am) Already there is a groundswell of resistance from the public, even though we still pay and pay and pay ( but we have little choice). However there are enough iniatives out there in renewables that soon it may achieve a critical mass that begins to make real competition for the Oil Oligarchy. It may still take 15-25 years to decide on a national standard(s) for renewables but I think it will occur. Oh, there is one other very basic human trait is currently 'in play'. GREED. Whoever can get the best and most reliable renewable to market will be able to make more money than he/she/they know how to spend. But to be realistic no Big Oil company is just going to stand by and allow all its customers to defect to some newer, better mousetrap. Whoever does provide the public with a better and reliable fuel from renewables will suddenly find a check from Mega Internation Oil, Inc on his desk with a stupid number of zero's in front of the decimal. In the meanwhile we all better be ready to drive something more efficient if we want to maintain our economic strength or even our current lifestyle. |
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Replying to: qbrozen (Dec 21, 2007 6:26 am) Yes! Of course. Why is it that you and I seem to be the only people who realize this? There is no free lunch. Energy has to be produced usually by burning something. Either in your engine or in a power plant. Both pollute. The only exception would be renewables like hydro. Too bad all the fish-rights groups are tearing down the power dams.
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"...GREED..." You seem to imply that greed is the only human emotion that drives inventiveness. There's also creativity, curiosity, ambition, a desire to explore new frontiers, etc. I doubt that greed was the main motivator for Thomas Edison, Henry Ford, Harvey Firestone, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Michael Dell, etc. While it may have been one factor in their careers, its not necessarily a negative, in the context of their great contributions. Similarly, I think the major oil companies, while far, far from perfect, have contributed mightily to the standard of living of millions.
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Dec 22, 2007 4:18 pm) I think you are right. Many here like to blame all the woes on the oil companies. While some have large reserves, many are buying oil on the open market to refine and sell to US. If we are buying 66% of our oil from other countries, that is not the fault of the oil companies. Most of the oil we buy is state owned and controlled. If you want to bad mouth our oil suppliers we need to say how greedy, Canada, Mexico, Venezuela and Saudi Arabia are. Then you add all the fickled states like California that have to have designer gasoline that adds a lot in the refining process. Oh, and now they have to add ethanol to keep the folks in the Midwest happy and growing more corn. The real greed can be traced back to the guy at the pump that thinks we should have gas cheaper than anyone else in the world. That does not endear us to the guy paying $6 per gallon. I guess if we were to develop more of our known reserves we could take a little bite out of the foreign oil producers. Still just a short term solution. |
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Dec 22, 2007 4:18 pm) |
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