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#51 of 538 Re: Inexpensive is a relative term [1stpik] by kdhspyder Dec 20, 2007 (4:45 am)
Replying to: 1stpik (Dec 19, 2007 2:57 pm) LOL...Are you young., or what.? My greatgrandfather was born before the Civil War.
#52 of 538 young'un by 1stpik Dec 20, 2007 (7:57 am)
Yeah, I'm 11 years old. I'm just real smart for my age.   So, are you in your 80s, or what?   great grandfather born c. 1860 (before the Civil War)   grandfather born c. 1885   father born c. 1905   you born c. 1925 Replies to this message: gagrice (Dec 20, 2007 8:52 am) kdhspyder (Dec 20, 2007 9:50 am)
#53 of 538 Re: young'un [1stpik] by gagrice Dec 20, 2007 (8:52 am)
Replying to: 1stpik (Dec 20, 2007 7:57 am) My grandmother was born in 1894 and I am only 64 and my youngest brother is 46. Never knew my great grandfather, they were long gone before I was born. My wife is 63 and her grandfather was born in 1881 so you don't have to be that old to have a great grandfather born during the Civil war.
#54 of 538 Here's how I "HOPE" it affects them by larsb Dec 20, 2007 (9:42 am)
Smaller, safer, and more efficient gas cars.   Plethora of diesel and gasoline/electric and diesel/electric sedans by multiple manufacturers, all getting 70 MPG highway.
#55 of 538 Well ..... by 1stpik Dec 20, 2007 (9:43 am)
"so you don't have to be that old to have a great grandfather born during the Civil war."   Sure, you don't HAVE to be, but you probably are. Generations historically run 20 years in this country. 15 years in some cities these days, but that's another discussion.   If your g.g.f. was born 150 years ago, the math ain't hard to do.   It's just a damn shame that your grandparents didn't demand electric cars 100 years ago, because we'd ALL be better off today if they did.   . Replies to this message: kdhspyder (Dec 20, 2007 9:56 am) gagrice (Dec 20, 2007 12:07 pm)
#56 of 538 Re: young'un [1stpik] by kdhspyder Dec 20, 2007 (9:50 am)
Replying to: 1stpik (Dec 20, 2007 7:57 am) Very close..very smart for an 11 y.o. 1850's in Ireland 1880 in America 1924 1949 me 1982 my first 2007 my first g c
#57 of 538 Re: Well ..... [1stpik] by kdhspyder Dec 20, 2007 (9:56 am)
Replying to: 1stpik (Dec 20, 2007 9:43 am) Yep Edison that dope missed the boat entirely. Wasted his time on all that showmanship stuff. Heck he could have been the Henry Ford of the 20th Century except that he got caught up with General Electric and movies and power generation. Replies to this message: gagrice (Dec 20, 2007 12:07 pm)
#58 of 538 Re: Well ..... [kdhspyder] by gagrice Dec 20, 2007 (12:07 pm)
Replying to: kdhspyder (Dec 20, 2007 9:56 am) Except GE is still going great guns and Ford is having a hard time keeping up. Several auto makers did build electric cars. They had the same problems with electric cars today. Not enough battery to go where people want to go.
#59 of 538 Re: As you may have heard [nippononly] by volvomax Dec 20, 2007 (2:34 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Dec 19, 2007 7:49 pm) I really hope they sue over this one. What happened to rights being reserved to the states unless specifically reserved to the federal government? California's clean air laws PREDATE the federal ones. That is why California has always had the authority to enforce stricter standards, which has most often been a necessity because of air pollution problems that were worse here than in most other parts of the country.   Regulating interstate commerce,which the manufacture and sale of automobiles falls under IS an enumerated power of the Federal Gov't. The fact that the Feds have allowed CARB to set their own standards does not mean that the Federal Gov't has surrendered those rights to the states. Personally, I think that one of the resons the automakers didn't fight this new law more vigorously is that they got assurances that the Feds would slap down CARB. Carmakers have NEVER liked CARB and have never liked having to make 2 different types of cars for the same country.
#60 of 538 Re: Inexpensive is a relative term [1stpik] by andre1969 Dec 20, 2007 (4:04 pm)
Replying to: 1stpik (Dec 19, 2007 2:57 pm) Gasoline engines are only "inexpensive" because all the automakers started using them before our great grandfathers were born. That economy of scale that developed made the engines affordable, not the other way around.   Actually, once upon a time, the gasoline engine was not the engine of choice. Back in the experimentation stages, companies played around with steam, gasoline, electric, and probably other sources as well. Back in the early days of the automobile, there were plenty of electric cars around. The problem is that then, just like now, the battery technology was just not there yet. Gasoline engines have come a long way in terms of advancement, but with electric motors still have that same achilles heel...the battery.   Battery technology is getting better, but not in leaps and bounds like the internal combustion engine did.

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