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How The 35 mpg Law By 2020 Will Affect The Cars We Will Drive

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Re: How The 35 mpg Law By 2020 Will Affect The Cars We Will Drive [hpmctorque] by cooterbfd
May 29, 2008 (3:40 pm)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (May 29, 2008 10:39 am)

You'd essentially pay for a battery charge, without having to wait for the recharging. It'll be interesting to see how this will play out. From what I've read, the economics of this plan are favorable, compared to high priced oil.
      
Yeah, until Big Oil lobbies Congress to give the electric vehicles a "fuel economy rating" equivalent to the amout of fuel used to recharge the battery pack.
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Re: : How The 35 mpg Law By 2020 Will Affect The Cars We Will Drive (andys1 by fezo
May 30, 2008 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 21, 2008 10:42 am)

Who on earth uses imperial gallons? I don't think there's any place now that both Canada and the UK went metric.
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Re: : How The 35 mpg Law By 2020 Will Affect The Cars We Will Drive (andys1 by british_rover
May 30, 2008 (10:26 am)
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Replying to: fezo (May 30, 2008 10:12 am)

UK still uses imperial gallons alongside liters per 100 km.
 
http://www.landrover.co.uk/gb/en/Vehicles/Discovery/Specifications/Discovery_eng- ines.htm
 
Check out the fuel consumption figures at that link.
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Re: : How The 35 mpg Law By 2020 Will Affect The Cars We Will Drive (andys1 by fezo
May 30, 2008 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (May 30, 2008 10:26 am)

Ouch!
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Re: : How The 35 mpg Law By 2020 Will Affect The Cars We Will Drive (andys1 by british_rover
May 30, 2008 (11:17 am)
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Replying to: fezo (May 30, 2008 11:14 am)

Hey now mid 30s imperial gallon highway isn't bad for a 6,000 lbs plus truck.
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Re: : How The 35 mpg Law By 2020 Will Affect The Cars We Will Drive (andys1 by fezo
May 30, 2008 (11:30 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (May 30, 2008 11:17 am)

Pardon me - I was reading the wrong line. Been taht kind of day.
 
No, that's not bad at all.
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Re: : How The 35 mpg Law By 2020 Will Affect The Cars We Will Drive (andys1 by british_rover
May 30, 2008 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: fezo (May 30, 2008 11:30 am)

No, it isn't that bad and that is one of the things that drives me crazy right now. There isn't any mid-sized to full sized vehicle on the market that can seat seven adults and get over 30 mpg highway. The LR3 with the TDv6 can do that and it is available right now if California would get its head out of its ass in regards to diesel emissions.
 
The Mazda5 comes close but it only seats six and doesn't have the all around capability that the LR3 does.
 
I don't know if the TDV6 would do very well in the US market as 0-60 comes along in a leisurely 12.8 seconds with the automatic.
 
Still the TDV8 from the Range Rover only gives up a couple of mpg to the TDV6 and is just as fast as the V8 petrol motor.
 
http://www.landrover.co.uk/gb/en/Vehicles/Range_Rover_Sport/Specifications/Engin- es%20and%20performance.htm
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Re: : How The 35 mpg Law By 2020 Will Affect The Cars We Will Drive (andys1 by fezo
May 30, 2008 (12:13 pm)
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Replying to: british_rover (May 30, 2008 11:49 am)

Don't be trying to sell me an LR3 now..... I can't think of where the nearest Land Rover is...
 
If I ever do manage to move myself back into the hills I could have a lot of fun in one of those.
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looks like by nippononly
Jun 02, 2008 (5:36 pm)
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GM is taking the whole thing seriously: they are going to power their next compact models with a turbo 1.4, and may even make that engine standard in their midsize cars too:
 
http://www.autonews.com/article/20080602/ANA02/847106937/1176/emailblast02&refse- ct=emailblast02
 
Sounds like the Cobalt as we know it will be going away after 2010. They expect 40 mpg from the new powertrain, and 120-140 hp.
 
They are also apparently reconsidering bringing the Beat to the U.S.
 
In a separate piece of news today, it looks like Ford is already expanding the Fiesta lineup before it has even gone on sale, by adding 3- and 5-door hatches to the proposed launch in two years.
 
Two automakers taking the new mandate seriously and making early strides to meet its goals...
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Re: looks like (nippononly) by hpmctorque
Jun 02, 2008 (8:13 pm)
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It all looks very interesting, and I'm rooting for the success of these efforts, and a fair market return for the risks associated with these enhancements, but I wonder about the durability of a highly stressed turbo engine.

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