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How The 35 mpg Law By 2020 Will Affect The Cars We Will Drive

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Re: Maybe the politico's on both sides do have their fingers on the pulse [steve_] by cooterbfd
Mar 25, 2008 (5:59 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Mar 25, 2008 5:51 pm)

Is it ugly too?
 
Butt Ugly
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Re: Maybe the politico's on both sides do have their fingers on the pulse [ by gagrice
Mar 25, 2008 (6:45 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Mar 25, 2008 5:51 pm)

The Tundra, Sequoia and Land cruiser all share that same grotesque front end. The bodies as I have commented before look like a fat girl in Spandex.
 
When we were looking at a new Platinum Sequoia in the showroom this morning the salesman walked up with a "She's a beauty eh?" comment. I told him I was so glad I had bought the 2007 model before Toyota designers went on drugs. He was not sure how to take the comment. He walked away.
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Re: Maybe the politico's on both sides do have their fingers on the pulse [ by gagrice
Mar 25, 2008 (6:57 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Mar 25, 2008 2:23 pm)

Toyota buried the country in Yaris' back in Jan
 
People still have plenty of money for buying an economy car. At least the majority that are not losing their homes. The salesman said the Prius is their best seller. They had rows of 2 & 4 door Yaris in stock. My daughter and Son in law love theirs. SIL drives about 35 miles each way to work. Says the Yaris gets about 40 MPG. About the same as he was getting with his Honda 750 motorcycle. They are moving to Indiana and will not take the motorcycle with them. So I encouraged them to try the Yaris when they got upset with the local Honda store dealing on a Fit. I think the Yaris is worth $15k before the Prius is worth $25k. They are both throwaway cars.
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Status by 1stpik
Mar 25, 2008 (7:57 pm)
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Remember, people don't buy cars just because of price or fuel economy. Emotion and status play a huge part in the decision.
 
People use their cars to tell the world "I'm rich," or "I'm tough," or "I'm cool."
 
A Yaris says "I can only afford a $15,000 car." But a Prius says "I could be a millionaire who just wants to drive a $25K hybrid to show my enviro-hipness."
 
That elasticity in perception could be a big reason for brisk hybrid sales ..... along with $3.25 gasoline.
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Re: Status [1stpik] by kdhspyder
Mar 25, 2008 (9:36 pm)
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Replying to: 1stpik (Mar 25, 2008 7:57 pm)

Actually I've sold several to millionaires.. In each case tho the primary driver is driving at least 20000 mpy
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Re: Status [kdhspyder] by andre1969
Mar 26, 2008 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Mar 25, 2008 9:36 pm)

Maybe that's one reason that those people became millionaires...living below their means and not trying to keep up with the Joneses.
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Re: Status [andre1969] by kernick
Mar 26, 2008 (9:34 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Mar 26, 2008 7:22 am)

I don't see those 2 goals as being mutually exclusive. You just need to be smart enough to keep up with the Jones and save.
 
And yes - status or the perception of status imparted by how one looks or what they have is important many times. Pull in to a luxury-car dealer wearing some old ratty clothes, a $10 watch, and driving a $1,000 vehicle, and see what sort of reception you get. You better be famous, or pull some $100 bills out pretty quick.
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Re: Status [andre1969] by kyfdx HOST
Mar 26, 2008 (9:41 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Mar 26, 2008 7:22 am)

I'm sure that is the case some of the time...
 
But, I think it's a lot easier to live below your means, if you are already a millionaire.. The guy working for minimum wage will have a lot harder time doing that... His means don't allow for a lot of wiggle room...
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Re: stuff [cooterbfd] by 4krysia
Mar 29, 2008 (7:20 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Mar 23, 2008 5:33 pm)

(SIGH....................) Can't we puhleeeeeese go back to1998 when we were paying 80 or 90 CENTS a gallon????????
 
we'd need a much less, ummm, impotent dollar for that to happen.
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Re: stuff [4krysia] by bpizzuti
Mar 30, 2008 (4:53 am)
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Replying to: 4krysia (Mar 29, 2008 7:20 pm)

Why would they do that when oil companies have discovered that we will mortgage our houses and starve ourselves in order to pay $3.50 a gallon?

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