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2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo
- Balance and body control of the GT-R are extraordinary through faster, bumpy bends that will have the 911 unsettled enough to make the driver lose confidence. I had a number of heart-in-mouth moments in the Turbo trying to keep up with the GT-R, even with the Porsche's suspension set to its harder Sport setting. (more)


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Re: Guys... [lemmer] by bigmclargehuge
Oct 29, 2008 (11:12 am)
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Replying to: lemmer (Oct 29, 2008 10:18 am)

In college I put on 40 lbs in a year, and my friends gave me a nickname.
 
It was almost a year later that I learned it was from Mystery Science Theatre 3000. Laughed my ass off. I seriously thought my friends were really clever, and there I was presenting it as if it were something creative.
 
Sadly, with my career I don't get to spend the 3 hours a day at the gym anymore. I've lost about 20 of those lbs to the office chair. In another 5 years I'll probably have to change it to TinyMcWeeSmall.
 
A bit embarrasing, but since I laugh every time I see the name, I still use it online. Apparently it makes other people uncomfortable though.
 
What's a Lemmer?
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Re: Guys... [bigmclargehuge] by lemmer
Oct 29, 2008 (11:41 am)
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Replying to: bigmclargehuge (Oct 29, 2008 11:12 am)

Lemmer is also a college nickname - a play on my real name. No exciting stories involved.
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Re: PDK reliability issues [bigmclargehuge] by nobodyspecial
Oct 29, 2008 (1:32 pm)
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Replying to: bigmclargehuge (Oct 24, 2008 8:25 am)

As for Nissan having a 911 competitor in the past, I never got the memo on that one
 
I'm actually kind of curious as to how the whole Nissan/Porsche comparison got started. This is obviously opinion here but I orginally thought that the R-3# GT-R series has sort of been Japans take on the Muscle Car hence why the 72/73' GT-R looked so much like a Mach series mustang.
 
Did Nissan actually intend to come out swinging against 911? OR were they just trying to take the most (searches for word) popular performance car from both the american and european markets?
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Re: Guys... [lemmer] by nobodyspecial
Oct 29, 2008 (1:36 pm)
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Replying to: lemmer (Oct 29, 2008 7:02 am)

Back in the 1960s Car & Driver did a "comparison" between a Ferrari GTO and a Pontiact GTO. Pontiac supplied a ringer that was faster than the Ferrari (at a far lower cost). Even in its pumped up state, nobody saw the Pontiac as a real competitor to the Ferrari as its feel and heritage were inferior, but it was a fun exercise I suppose.
 
Car and driver did that more recently with a Toyota MR2 $25k worth of tuning vs. a stock Elise........it killed the Elise and was still cheaper but was pretty much reduced to an uncomfortable track car........again people thought the same thing awesome thing to do but a sort of irrelevant comparison as while the lesser did outperform the thoroughbred.......well..........it was on performance enhancing drugs
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Re: PDK reliability issues [nobodyspecial] by madmanmoo
Oct 29, 2008 (1:59 pm)
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Replying to: nobodyspecial (Oct 29, 2008 1:32 pm)

Did Nissan actually intend to come out swinging against 911?
 
Yes, Nissan carted a 911 Turbo around with them as their benchmark to see how their beloved GT-R was matching up.
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Re: Guys... [nobodyspecial] by madmanmoo
Oct 29, 2008 (2:00 pm)
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Replying to: nobodyspecial (Oct 29, 2008 1:36 pm)

it killed the Elise and was still cheaper but was pretty much reduced to an uncomfortable track car.
 
That's exactly what an Elise is. Just a more expensive uncomfortable track car. Those things are brutal. Fun though.
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Re: Guys... [nobodyspecial] by bigmclargehuge
Oct 29, 2008 (3:15 pm)
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Replying to: nobodyspecial (Oct 29, 2008 1:36 pm)

Anyone else think Car and Driver will always be absolutely full of it?
 
Two words... 'Lightning Lap'. With Mustangs beating Porsches, Cobalts beating Elises, and stock Corvettes beating Z06s.
 
After years of really wierd results, I'm unlikely to believe any of their stuff again.
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Re: PDK reliability issues [madmanmoo] by bigmclargehuge
Oct 29, 2008 (4:06 pm)
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Replying to: madmanmoo (Oct 29, 2008 1:59 pm)

Yes, Nissan carted a 911 Turbo around with them as their benchmark to see how their beloved GT-R was matching up.
 
That is true, though its essentially deja vu of what they used to do. With the R32 development team, Nissan bought a Porsche 959 and paraded around the Nurburgring.
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by lemmer
Nov 11, 2008 (8:26 am)
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The NISMO GT-R, Nissan's crown jewel - they can't afford to take it to the 'Ring? Based on all 'Ring press releases in the past for the GT-R, the "budgetary constraints" reason seems disingenuous at best.
 
I guess Nissan won't be able to afford to take the stock GT-R back out to prove Porsche wrong either.
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Re: [lemmer] by bigmclargehuge
Nov 11, 2008 (8:32 pm)
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Replying to: lemmer (Nov 11, 2008 8:26 am)

Wrong.
 
They already have a GT-R and a V-spec at the 'Ring. The NISMO would have to be carted around the world.
 
Makes very little sense when the V-spec is making its debut this month. Plus, the V-spec is (according to Mr. GT-R) 5-10% better than the NISMO. The NISMO's 3 package levels will all just fall somewhere below the V-spec time.

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