Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo

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2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo - Balance and body control of the GT-R are extraordinary through faster, bumpy bends that will have the 911 unsettled enough to make the driver lose confidence. I had a number of heart-in-mouth moments in the Turbo trying to keep up with the GT-R, even with the Porsche's suspension set to its harder Sport setting. (more)

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#940 of 990 Re: PDK reliability issues [bigmclargehuge] by lemmer Oct 24, 2008 (10:39 am)
Replying to: bigmclargehuge (Oct 24, 2008 10:27 am) I thought Sport Auto's 7:50 time was not a wet track, but a track with one damp corner. Is that incorrect? If not, it seems like Sport Auto is right in line with Porsche's GT-R time. Replies to this message: bigmclargehuge (Oct 24, 2008 10:47 am) madmanmoo (Oct 24, 2008 10:50 am) bigmclargehuge (Oct 24, 2008 10:56 am) and 11 more...
#941 of 990 Re: PDK reliability issues [lemmer] by bigmclargehuge Oct 24, 2008 (10:44 am)
Replying to: lemmer (Oct 24, 2008 10:20 am) And actually while I'm thinking about it, the stock Dunlops (the tires the GT-R uses while beating Turbos on pavement) are all-seasons. The Turbo makes its best times on HPSTs. So, this is just an opinion, but I'd guess that if you made up a decathalon of track tests, the GT-R would win or tie the Turbo in just about everything. Road course, oval, gravel, dirt, Nascar, motorcylces, a frozen lake, 1/4-mile strip, tube-launched from a submarine, dropped from an airplane, etc. etc. you name it. Anyone want to set this up? It'd be one helluva day
#942 of 990 Re: PDK reliability issues [lemmer] by madmanmoo Oct 24, 2008 (10:46 am)
Replying to: lemmer (Oct 24, 2008 10:01 am) Your emotorcons don't scare me. Hahaha!
#943 of 990 Re: PDK reliability issues [lemmer] by bigmclargehuge Oct 24, 2008 (10:47 am)
Replying to: lemmer (Oct 24, 2008 10:39 am) Water on the track. Porsche can't drive the GT-R if they couldn't beat 7:50 with X number of wet corners. Besides, Porsche is an unreputable source, and chronic liars. You keep misinterpretting Horst's comments. He is saying that if he could do 7:50 in the wet, be believes the Nissan 7:38 time was more representative of what the car is capable of. Cars go faster in the dry. Please don't try to rebut that claim again. Replies to this message: madmanmoo (Oct 24, 2008 10:50 am) bigmclargehuge (Oct 24, 2008 10:56 am) madmanmoo (Oct 24, 2008 11:05 am) and 10 more...
#944 of 990 Re: PDK reliability issues [bigmclargehuge] by madmanmoo Oct 24, 2008 (10:50 am)
Replying to: bigmclargehuge (Oct 24, 2008 10:47 am) Besides, Porsche is an unreputable source, and chronic liars. Actually, I would have to agree with you there. Porsche doesn't have any heritage of race winning over the last 40 years. They come out with a wonder car every 20 years and act like they can beat the world. Nissan however, has and always will be the benchmark that people look to. Great point. Good post. Replies to this message: bigmclargehuge (Oct 24, 2008 10:56 am) madmanmoo (Oct 24, 2008 11:05 am)
#945 of 990 Re: PDK reliability issues [madmanmoo] by bigmclargehuge Oct 24, 2008 (10:56 am)
Replying to: madmanmoo (Oct 24, 2008 10:50 am) Forget manufacturer claims if you want to. Throw out Nissan's, throw out Porsche's, throw out GM and Dodge. Lets just take Horst von Saurma's times. Even ruling out the conditions and tires they were tested on, Sport Auto went faster in the GT-R than the Turbo. Actually, I would have to agree with you there. Porsche doesn't have any heritage of race winning over the last 40 years. They come out with a wonder car every 20 years and act like they can beat the world. Nissan however, has and always will be the benchmark that people look to. I have no idea how you can ignore so many facts. It is exactly as you say, in the last 20 years, Nissan has had four (4) GT-R chassis that were 911 beaters. Which of these races were won with stock Porsches? I'm guessing few to none. Good point. Great post. Great job being wrong again. Replies to this message: madmanmoo (Oct 24, 2008 11:05 am) madmanmoo (Oct 24, 2008 12:07 pm) and 1 more...
#946 of 990 Re: PDK reliability issues [bigmclargehuge] by madmanmoo Oct 24, 2008 (11:05 am)
Replying to: bigmclargehuge (Oct 24, 2008 10:56 am) I completely agree with you. Porsche is run by a bunch of liars and idiots who couldn't produce a decent vehicle but 4 times in the last 40 years. Nissan is awesome. Nissan's significance in the automotive world is unparalleled. When I think racing and sports cars, I think "Nissan"! Great points buddy. Thanks. Replies to this message: madmanmoo (Oct 24, 2008 12:07 pm)