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2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo - Balance and body control of the GT-R are extraordinary through faster, bumpy bends that will have the 911 unsettled enough to make the driver lose confidence. I had a number of heart-in-mouth moments in the Turbo trying to keep up with the GT-R, even with the Porsche's suspension set to its harder Sport setting. (more)
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Replying to: lemmer (Oct 24, 2008 10:20 am) Somehow my little 'any track in the world' comment gets taken out of context. Lets limit this to asphalt. You already know I don't think the GT-R is much of a dragster. All my posts have been, by default, road-courses. Everywhere it has been tested by third parties. Including the Nurburgring. As I shall now demonstrate. What is 'apparent' is that Porsche has a chronic lying problem. I'm just going to re-post this from another thread. Its great stuff. -Porsche claims the Turbo will do 7'38" on the Ring. -SportAuto could not verify their claim. The best SA could do was 7'54" in the 997Turbo...On R compound tires.-Yet Porsche is saying that Nissan's 7'29" time is not repeatable... Meanwhile... -Sport Auto, MERELY GETTING A FEEL FOR THE GT-R, did a 7'50", on OEM street (NOT R COMP) tires. In the wet. That's 4 seconds faster than they got with a 997 Turbo on R Comp tires...and again, they weren't out to set the fastest time possible with the GT-R. And they were in the wet. Does Porsche really want to try to make the argument that the GT-R is slower on the Ring vs the 911 Turbo? Do they really want to talk about the tires? Do they really want to bump all the news stories everywhere to bring this into focus? Give them rope everyone, give them rope. Children close your eyes. Everyone stand back. They will hang themselves. This was bound to happen. Porsche is obviously flustered, big time. Porsche's story contains several discrepancies. You keep misinterpretting Horst's comments. He is saying that if he could do 7:50 in the wet, be believes the Nissan 7:38 time was more representative of what the car is capable of. Cars go faster in the dry. Please don't try to rebut that claim again. 
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Replying to: bigmclargehuge (Oct 24, 2008 10:27 am)
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Replying to: lemmer (Oct 24, 2008 10:20 am) So, this is just an opinion, but I'd guess that if you made up a decathalon of track tests, the GT-R would win or tie the Turbo in just about everything. Road course, oval, gravel, dirt, Nascar, motorcylces, a frozen lake, 1/4-mile strip, tube-launched from a submarine, dropped from an airplane, etc. etc. you name it. Anyone want to set this up? It'd be one helluva day
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Replying to: lemmer (Oct 24, 2008 10:01 am) Hahaha! |
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Replying to: lemmer (Oct 24, 2008 10:39 am) Besides, Porsche is an unreputable source, and chronic liars. You keep misinterpretting Horst's comments. He is saying that if he could do 7:50 in the wet, be believes the Nissan 7:38 time was more representative of what the car is capable of. Cars go faster in the dry. Please don't try to rebut that claim again.
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Replying to: bigmclargehuge (Oct 24, 2008 10:47 am) Actually, I would have to agree with you there. Porsche doesn't have any heritage of race winning over the last 40 years. They come out with a wonder car every 20 years and act like they can beat the world. Nissan however, has and always will be the benchmark that people look to. Great point. Good post.
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Replying to: madmanmoo (Oct 24, 2008 10:50 am) Even ruling out the conditions and tires they were tested on, Sport Auto went faster in the GT-R than the Turbo. Actually, I would have to agree with you there. Porsche doesn't have any heritage of race winning over the last 40 years. They come out with a wonder car every 20 years and act like they can beat the world. Nissan however, has and always will be the benchmark that people look to. I have no idea how you can ignore so many facts. It is exactly as you say, in the last 20 years, Nissan has had four (4) GT-R chassis that were 911 beaters. Which of these races were won with stock Porsches? I'm guessing few to none. Good point. Great post. Great job being wrong again.
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Replying to: bigmclargehuge (Oct 24, 2008 10:56 am) Nissan's significance in the automotive world is unparalleled. When I think racing and sports cars, I think "Nissan"! Great points buddy. Thanks.
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