Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo

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2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo - Balance and body control of the GT-R are extraordinary through faster, bumpy bends that will have the 911 unsettled enough to make the driver lose confidence. I had a number of heart-in-mouth moments in the Turbo trying to keep up with the GT-R, even with the Porsche's suspension set to its harder Sport setting. (more)

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#908 of 990 Re: Nissan will fall apart [habitat1] by nobodyspecial Oct 14, 2008 (8:45 pm)
Replying to: habitat1 (Oct 12, 2008 3:07 pm) Okay I have to sound off on this GT-R thing.......First infinity G35 NOT A GT-R maybe in japan where it was the Nissan Skyline R-35.....secondly the GT-R badge has been around for almost 30+ years now starting around about 1973 which was a Mustang Mach look alike only with a 6 cylinder and a turbo. Then it got real popularity with the Nissan Skyline R32. True the GT-R we are getting is the first ever stateside and while it is pretty and looks like a blast I am doubtful of its popularity with.......I fear to say this in public forum "more traditional americans" which will make it a relatively limited run. Finally folks Porsche has been around a long time, so has nissan both have models that I dislike and completely loathe, and others that I completely love and while Nissan has failed financially especially lately with the hybrid havok they will still exist in some way shape or form and more than likely be under some corporation other than Renault. They will all to a degree (maybe with some generation gaps) keep producing the cars (if not in the U.S. then in their home countries) that got them famous e.g. 911's and the Skyline (I'm sorry I hate GT-R and think it's a buzz word because skyline probably sounded too homogenous for the american market) As for buyers it all boils down to a matter of taste. With the money I would not buy a Corvette or Viper simply because they are not what I find particularly appealing (Okay the sounds they make are appealing, but so is a pissed off twin turbo six) .........Sadly there is always going to be some person out there that will seem to find issue with my idea of taste a find cause to knock it by measuring it against what he knows and is familiar/comfortable with OH OH OH!!!! I FORGOT! BMW smg transmission has a launch control button and 6 different settings for it as I recall........using the highest setting will void warranty....this is like 5 year old hearsay tho. Also about the Infitity 4door GT-R........been there done that I think its called the BNR-34.........they made a drifter out of one, other than that the toyota soarer (Lexus GS350) was alot more popular being the fakey benz that it is. Replies to this message: habitat1 (Oct 15, 2008 5:22 am) nobodyspecial (Oct 15, 2008 2:35 pm) madmanmoo (Oct 15, 2008 2:39 pm) and 2 more... habitat1 (Oct 16, 2008 7:00 am)
#909 of 990 Re: [bigmclargehuge] by nobodyspecial Oct 14, 2008 (8:51 pm)
Replying to: bigmclargehuge (Oct 10, 2008 12:17 pm) the BMW M5 SMG tranny is void after 6 formula one style starts.........lots of cars that shouldnt be 1/4 milers are marketed as such because well......a lot of the people that can afford these cars don't have the backs to take crazy turns in them so......well there has to be some bell or whislte on the car for those moments when "Feeling young"..............or when yer kid borrows the car and wants to impress his friends
#910 of 990 Re: Maserati MC12 smashes Nürburgring Lap Record [skarie] by nobodyspecial Oct 14, 2008 (8:52 pm)
Replying to: skarie (Oct 10, 2008 1:15 pm) Skyline GT-R $100k to >500k
#911 of 990 Re: Nissan will fall apart [skarie] by nobodyspecial Oct 14, 2008 (8:53 pm)
Replying to: skarie (Oct 11, 2008 5:50 pm) Nissan was busy killing honda and acura in the JGTC series back then...Super GT now
#912 of 990 Re: Nissan will fall apart [nobodyspecial] by habitat1 Oct 15, 2008 (5:22 am)
Replying to: nobodyspecial (Oct 14, 2008 8:45 pm) Okay I have to sound off on this GT-R thing.......First infinity G35 NOT A GT-R maybe in japan where it was the Nissan Skyline R-35.....secondly the GT-R badge has been around for almost 30+ years now starting around about 1973 which was a Mustang Mach look alike only with a 6 cylinder and a turbo. Then it got real popularity with the Nissan Skyline R32. True the GT-R we are getting is the first ever stateside and while it is pretty and looks like a blast I am doubtful of its popularity with.......I fear to say this in public forum "more traditional americans" which will make it a relatively limited run. Finally folks Porsche has been around a long time, so has nissan both have models that I dislike and completely loathe, and others that I completely love and while Nissan has failed financially especially lately with the hybrid havok they will still exist in some way shape or form and more than likely be under some corporation other than Renault. They will all to a degree (maybe with some generation gaps) keep producing the cars (if not in the U.S. then in their home countries) that got them famous e.g. 911's and the Skyline (I'm sorry I hate GT-R and think it's a buzz word because skyline probably sounded too homogenous for the american market) I'm no English major - math was my better subject. But if my 4th grade daughter wrote a paragraph like the first one in your post, I'd immediately be calling for a conference with her teachers to see what we could do in the way of remedial classes. I don't understand what bottom line conclusion you were trying to make, other than "sounding off" in a highly discombobulated manner. You may want to try reposting with some semblence of grammer and basic sentence logic. And, by the way "Infiniti" is the car. "Infinity" is where I have to travel back and forth from to try to make sense of your ramblings. It appears that you have a strong opinion about something, which I'd be happy to consider and/or respond to if had a better idea of what it was. Thanks. Replies to this message: nobodyspecial (Oct 15, 2008 2:35 pm) madmanmoo (Oct 15, 2008 2:39 pm) lemmer (Oct 16, 2008 5:47 am) habitat1 (Oct 16, 2008 7:00 am)
#913 of 990 Re: Nissan will fall apart [habitat1] by nobodyspecial Oct 15, 2008 (2:35 pm)
Replying to: habitat1 (Oct 15, 2008 5:22 am) Okay, allow me to modify my logic as, at the moment, I am not randomly cruising web sites while shirking my drafting homework. Admittedly my previous post sounded no where near sober and I suppose it in some wierd way warranted a comparison to your 4th grade daughter. Alas the point I want to convey is thus: Honestly, the only way I see the GTR surviving is if Nissan executives decide that having a supercar is so important to its overall image and marketing effort to warrant making it a "loss leader". But in that case, they better damn well give all of those owners that used "launch control" to try to replicate the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times that Nissan has been plastering all over the media as "faster than a Porsche Turbo" a brand new and improved beefier transmission. Free. With a set of golf clubs and round at Pebble Beach for their hassles. Otherwise, the GTR isn't going to be a "halo", it's going to be an embarassment. The Nissan Skyline-the car referred to in this particular thread- is being regarded as if it is "just some random venture" by Nissan Motors and that this production year is its first ever. This is flat out WRONG. While the name has been dumbed down for the market to simply "GT-R" it has existed for many many years, had any of you read the press packets you might know that this car has been around for years (since 1969 around about). I only know what I've read in the GT-R owners forum form the link above. So hopefully, for Nissan's sake, the problem isn't as serious as it sounds and/or will be addressed directly and professionally by Nissan. .........why don't you simply put a disclaimer at the end of all of your posts stating that not only are you not an authority on the subject you are arguing in but you actually have no first hand experience with the vehicle, thus saving people the aggravation of dealing with you.......hell dress nice enough and roll into a car lot with a nice car and the right attitude and they'll let you test drive anything.......seriously though, how many car owners out there buy a car and then treat like it has been properly broken in already and systematically abuse it instead of wearing it in? P.S. Since you were such a great math student, and especially since you appear in the mood to split hairs: I trust you can explain how you were able to travel both to and from infinity since it can't be put into literal numerical context hmmmm? I'm not being hyper critical but you have a better chance of approximating GODS physical location than putting infinity into a restricted context with just itself. Replies to this message: madmanmoo (Oct 15, 2008 2:39 pm) lemmer (Oct 16, 2008 5:47 am) habitat1 (Oct 16, 2008 7:00 am)
#914 of 990 Re: Nissan will fall apart [nobodyspecial] by madmanmoo Oct 15, 2008 (2:39 pm)
Replying to: nobodyspecial (Oct 15, 2008 2:35 pm) Hahahahahaha. Well played. At least he didn't bring up his S2000 in that post. He rarely misses an opportunity to speak of it. Just playing around, habitat. Replies to this message: lemmer (Oct 16, 2008 5:47 am)
#916 of 990 Re: Nissan will fall apart [madmanmoo] by lemmer Oct 16, 2008 (5:47 am)
Replying to: madmanmoo (Oct 15, 2008 2:39 pm) I was shocked that he didn't refer to the weight of the 350Z.
#917 of 990 Re: Nissan will fall apart [nobodyspecial] by habitat1 Oct 16, 2008 (7:00 am)
Replying to: nobodyspecial (Oct 15, 2008 2:35 pm) First, thanks for the re-posting. I may not have been diplomatic in my suggestion, but you are obviously a boatload more articulate than the first post suggested. *The Nissan Skyline-the car referred to in this particular thread- is being regarded as if it is "just some random venture" by Nissan Motors and that this production year is its first ever.* Sorry, I know the history of the Skyline, but I don't think that has any bearing upon the issues facing the GTR in the U.S. The Skyline seems to have taken so many forms over the years (sedan, coupe, GT, but never a real sports car) that it would take a Nissan fanatic or forensic scientist to trace any DNA connection betwen the Skyline and the Nissan GTR. As a matter of fact, according to Nissan, the Skyline and GTR are not as directly linked as the Skyline and G35/350Z are: "The 11th generation (V35) Nissan Skyline, introduced in June 2001, was based on Nissan's FM platform, shared with the 350Z. The Nissan Skyline used a front-midship engine (VQ35DE), rear-wheel drive layout (all-wheel drive was available for the sedan) to achieve a 52%/48% weight distribution. The V35 was the first Skyline made for export to the United States. There it was sold under the company's luxury brand, Infiniti as the Infiniti G35." why don't you simply put a disclaimer at the end of all of your posts stating that not only are you not an authority on the subject you are arguing in but you actually have no first hand experience with the vehicle, thus saving people the aggravation of dealing with you....... Excuse me? I thought I was being kind to Nissan by qualifying my concern over the transmission failures and launch control problems as coming from reports on the Nissan Owner's forum. This isn't a Nissan Owner's forum. This is Edmunds. Does anybody here own a GTR? You, smart ass? I didn't think so. The difference is I qualified my statement, whereas you are falsely posing as an authority while shirking your homework. Probably not the kind of study habits that will ever put you in the seat of a GTR. Or an S2000 or overweight 350Z for that matter. *I trust you can explain how you were able to travel both to and from infinity since it can't be put into literal numerical context hmmmm?* Truth be told, I stayed put. But if you are having a tough time getting beyond 3 or 4 dimensional thinking (when you aren't 2 dimensionally drafting or 1 dimensionally advocating for Nissan), you might want to look into the latest theories by Dr. Michio Kaku or Stephen Hawking. Dr. Michio Kaku