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2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo - Balance and body control of the GT-R are extraordinary through faster, bumpy bends that will have the 911 unsettled enough to make the driver lose confidence. I had a number of heart-in-mouth moments in the Turbo trying to keep up with the GT-R, even with the Porsche's suspension set to its harder Sport setting. (more)
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Replying to: skarie (Oct 13, 2008 3:16 pm) I'd give them slack for a "bug" or two. But a transmission that breaks and an instruction to owners NOT to use the "Launch Control" feature or you will invalidate your warranty?? That's not a "bug", that's a major mechanical engineering meltdown. I've always though "launch control" was a hoakie gimmick to satisfy stop light drag racing boys. But when you take that away from the GT-R, the acceleration goes from super car to merely above average. Forget the 911 Turbo, GT2, GT3 or even the new 911S, the GT-R will be neck and neck with a 2009 base 911 coupe with sport-chrono, which costs about the same as the GT-R. I only know what I've read in the GT-R owners forum form the link above. So hopefully, for Nissan's sake, the problem isn't as serious as it sounds and/or will be addressed directly and professionally by Nissan. And to be honest with you i would'nt even buy any of these two cars if i had the money, i prefer the CLK AMG Black Series or the Porsche 911 GT3. More fun to drive. Two damn good choices, but IMO you can't really compare them in the "fun to drive" department. The CLK63 has gobs of torque, but a slushbox automatic that appears to be the only transmission those testosterone laden AMG engineers can manage on any of their offerings. I have driven several AMG models and, after you mash your foot to the floor a few times, you've had about as much "fun" as they offer. They make some enormously fast cars, just nothing I would call a satisfying sports car. The GT3, on the other hand, is serious "fun". Light, tight, 8,400 rpm redline, and a proper 6-speed manual as the ONLY transmission choice. If you can't have fun in a GT3, you probably don't have a pulse. By the way, my issue with excess weight isn't that you can't engineer around it to make a heavy car perform very well at extreme limits, especially with AWD. Nissan has done that. Acura has done that. Even Audi and Porsche (911TT) have done that. My issue is that the excess weight dulls the nimbleness of the car at subsonic speeds and in quick transitions. That was my biggest gripe with the 350Z vs. S2000 when I test drove them. I didn't take them to Nurburgring, I took them through Rock Creek Park in DC. And the S2000 was considerably more fun to drive in that setting. Again, personal preference. . |
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Replying to: habitat1 (Oct 12, 2008 4:07 pm) As for buyers it all boils down to a matter of taste. With the money I would not buy a Corvette or Viper simply because they are not what I find particularly appealing (Okay the sounds they make are appealing, but so is a pissed off twin turbo six) .........Sadly there is always going to be some person out there that will seem to find issue with my idea of taste a find cause to knock it by measuring it against what he knows and is familiar/comfortable with OH OH OH!!!! I FORGOT! BMW smg transmission has a launch control button and 6 different settings for it as I recall........using the highest setting will void warranty....this is like 5 year old hearsay tho. Also about the Infitity 4door GT-R........been there done that I think its called the BNR-34.........they made a drifter out of one, other than that the toyota soarer (Lexus GS350) was alot more popular being the fakey benz that it is.
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Replying to: bigmclargehuge (Oct 10, 2008 1:17 pm) |
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Replying to: skarie (Oct 10, 2008 2:15 pm) |
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Replying to: nobodyspecial (Oct 14, 2008 9:45 pm) I'm no English major - math was my better subject. But if my 4th grade daughter wrote a paragraph like the first one in your post, I'd immediately be calling for a conference with her teachers to see what we could do in the way of remedial classes. I don't understand what bottom line conclusion you were trying to make, other than "sounding off" in a highly discombobulated manner. You may want to try reposting with some semblence of grammer and basic sentence logic. And, by the way "Infiniti" is the car. "Infinity" is where I have to travel back and forth from to try to make sense of your ramblings. It appears that you have a strong opinion about something, which I'd be happy to consider and/or respond to if had a better idea of what it was. Thanks. |
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Replying to: habitat1 (Oct 15, 2008 6:22 am) Honestly, the only way I see the GTR surviving is if Nissan executives decide that having a supercar is so important to its overall image and marketing effort to warrant making it a "loss leader". But in that case, they better damn well give all of those owners that used "launch control" to try to replicate the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times that Nissan has been plastering all over the media as "faster than a Porsche Turbo" a brand new and improved beefier transmission. Free. With a set of golf clubs and round at Pebble Beach for their hassles. Otherwise, the GTR isn't going to be a "halo", it's going to be an embarassment. The Nissan Skyline-the car referred to in this particular thread- is being regarded as if it is "just some random venture" by Nissan Motors and that this production year is its first ever. This is flat out WRONG. While the name has been dumbed down for the market to simply "GT-R" it has existed for many many years, had any of you read the press packets you might know that this car has been around for years (since 1969 around about). I only know what I've read in the GT-R owners forum form the link above. So hopefully, for Nissan's sake, the problem isn't as serious as it sounds and/or will be addressed directly and professionally by Nissan. .........why don't you simply put a disclaimer at the end of all of your posts stating that not only are you not an authority on the subject you are arguing in but you actually have no first hand experience with the vehicle, thus saving people the aggravation of dealing with you.......hell dress nice enough and roll into a car lot with a nice car and the right attitude and they'll let you test drive anything.......seriously though, how many car owners out there buy a car and then treat like it has been properly broken in already and systematically abuse it instead of wearing it in? P.S. Since you were such a great math student, and especially since you appear in the mood to split hairs: I trust you can explain how you were able to travel both to and from infinity since it can't be put into literal numerical context hmmmm? I'm not being hyper critical but you have a better chance of approximating GODS physical location than putting infinity into a restricted context with just itself.
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Replying to: nobodyspecial (Oct 15, 2008 3:35 pm)  Just playing around, habitat.
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