Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo

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2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo - Balance and body control of the GT-R are extraordinary through faster, bumpy bends that will have the 911 unsettled enough to make the driver lose confidence. I had a number of heart-in-mouth moments in the Turbo trying to keep up with the GT-R, even with the Porsche's suspension set to its harder Sport setting. (more)

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#733 of 990 Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [speed6driver] by habitat1 May 02, 2008 (4:16 am)
Replying to: speed6driver (May 01, 2008 4:22 am) There's a certain degree of mystery and natural fascination with the GT-R because it's like a dream you can never quite remember. It's there, and then gone again leaving hints of the memory behind to piece together. The idea of a car becoming a methphor representing that mystery, surprise and dominance is the fun part. That is what sets the GT-R apart from the competition and makes it more than just a car. Would you rather own a name or an actual object that is a living metaphorical legend for power and dominance? Whoa, Nelly! Are you a Nissan PR person or did you just order a double dose of psychodelic mushrooms on your pizza? For those that think some Porsche buyers are a little hung up on the tradition and history of Porsche to be objective, this diatribe makes them seem downright pale by comparison. I'll gladly accept a Porsche is a Porsche. And a Nissan is a Nissan (or a Datsun, or an Infiniti). I bought a 2002 Honda S2000 because, for my purposes, it was a better car than a base Boxster and an far, far better car than the 350Z. I wasn't hung up on Porsche then, and I'm not now. But for goodness sakes, ascribing dilusional dream qualities to a Nissan that you've never sat in, let alone driven? Please, sober up. When the GT-R comes out and is available for public consumption and testing, I'll be happy to give it a fair shake, just as I did 6 years ago with the Honda S2000. And make my own judgement as to fit and finish quality. Or whether its impressive reported performance at Nurburgring comes at the expense of nimbleness and driving dynamics at sub-sonic speeds on public streets. Or whether or not a "sports car" that weighs 900+ lbs more than my 1995 Nissan Maxima (or nearly twice my 1978 Datsun B210 GX) is really my cup of tea. But with all due respect to those that question Porsche, Ferrari or other buyers regarding their objectivity, you need to get a grip on your own emotions and/or your pizza toppings. Automotive purchases are indeed full of subjectivity. But let's not forget that GTR is, also, only a car. Replies to this message: bigmclargehuge (May 02, 2008 5:29 am)
#734 of 990 Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [habitat1] by bigmclargehuge May 02, 2008 (5:29 am)
Replying to: habitat1 (May 02, 2008 4:16 am) But with all due respect to those that question Porsche, Ferrari or other buyers regarding their objectivity No 2 wrongs make a right. Nobody should be telling other people what they want. Bear in mind these are not always the same people. Though you've gone down that road yourself. Are you not a person who told me to work harder so I could afford a real sports car? Sounds like you need to lay of the halucinogens yourself, because you seem to think you have psychic powers. Just a thought. You seem to not want to discuss either the GT-R or the 911 Turbo, but to convert everyone to 'sports cars.' Sports cars are not good, IMHO. If I want feely, light, RWD, NA, manual I'll go all the way. The only exceptions I can think of are Loti. Also, note the rest of the discussion. The GT-R is not the sporty version. The base GT-R is a touring car. Its meant to have back seats. The V-spec will weigh yet less, and thats not even the spartan GT3 type version. Which is sure to come eventually.
#740 of 990 The best thing since sliced bread, the GTR by 911nut May 05, 2008 (7:18 pm)
I wonder how many of you GTR fans have the vehicle on order? Furthermore, the GTR is such a legend that only the Japanese and only a few adolescent American wanna bees or die hard Nissans fans are aware of this. Let's wait and see what the GTR does when its finally available. I sure hope Nissan begins to race this car and lives up to your fantasy expectations. And by the way, anyone who believes they will purchase this car for 70K is really out of touch. And those lucky few who will be able to purchase this vehicle at 20-30K over list better pray the car will live up to expectation.
#742 of 990 Re: Skyline GTR 101: Facts, Fiction & Future [911nut] by bigmclargehuge May 06, 2008 (5:45 am)
Anyone that claims to know about automotive history and heritage would recognize that this is history repeating itself. The R33 GT-R was sold in limited numbers in Europe, where it promptly embarrased all the 993 Porsches. Its track performance is quite famous around the world. In fact, anyone who doesn't know the history of the GT-R legend has a big gap in their understanding of motorsports. They would not be so much a car buff as a wanna be auto enthusiast. I don't think everyone here is a 'die hard Nissan fan.' I appreciate many makes and models. Its just that the 997 Turbo is not really a performance competitor to the GT-R. Oh well, better luck with the 998. Replies to this message: lemmer (May 07, 2008 5:18 am) sjaieve (May 07, 2008 9:45 am) lemmer (May 07, 2008 10:12 am) sjaieve (May 07, 2008 11:12 am) and 2 more...